Re: [Amc-list] MW-50 = 'Meth Freaks' of the 1940's =
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Re: [Amc-list] MW-50 = 'Meth Freaks' of the 1940's =
- From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:45:25 -0500
Yeah,
Those are the sites and information I was talking about.............
When I first began studying German Fighter Aircraft of WW2 I thought the
Germans invented all that stuff....MW50 methanol/water and GM-1 nitrous
injection. I wish I could remember who it was that actually got credit for
inventing the process and when it was invented or discovered. Maybe the
Schnieder Trophy aircraft races of the late twenties and early thirties???
Any body??
AMC content - I finally received my valve spring compressor today and
removed the valves and springs etc. from my 1970 360 heads. Any body got any
information on cleaning these heads up for a little better performance but
not getting too wild? I'm interested in mild port and combustion chamber
work. One question for sure is... shouldn't that area between the valves
(in the combustion chamber) be ground so that it doesn't have a point right
there? Isn't that point a hot spot for pre-ignition problems?
Armand
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:10 PM
Subject: [Amc-list] MW-50 = 'Meth Freaks' of the 1940's =
On Thursday 02 August 2007 07:49:40 Don Johnson wrote:
> > Tom, I think you're off a little in your explanation of the use of water
> > injection. Water injection is used in aircraft to slow the onset of
> > detonation at high boost and power settings. Steam will not increase
> > cylinder pressures over what is obtained by burning gasoline, especially
at
> > high boosts.
>
I don't recall my source so I'll defer to you here. Somewhere though I
recall
a discussion of handling wasted heat -- since producing heat to increase gas
pressure of course is all the burning gasoline is good for! -- but I could
have the scale of things off, for starters, or just be plain old wrong
(nahh,
that never happens :-)
Was W.I. used WITH turbo/supercharging then?
===.===
www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org - Luftwaffe Resource Center - Fuels
*...* <http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/fuels.html>
MW50 - A 50/50 mixture of methanol and *water* (thus the name) that was
sprayed into the supercharger of *German aircraft* engines primarily for
its *...*
www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/fuels.html
Snow Performance: Home
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snowperform
ance.net%2F&ei=LVKyRuXdAZzsiAHF5sXrAQ&usg=AFQjCNGQc78Ec6bSL29SapRqR4RSQM526w
&sig2=-C3Hcd8DL7yZaSSu05_Fag>
In 1942, the *German* Luftwaffe increased the horsepower of the
Focke-Wulf 190D-9 fighter *aircraft* from 1776HP to 2240HP using 50/50%
*water*/methanol *injection* *...*
www.snowperformance.net/
*[PDF]*
*Water Injection*---Could it Reduce Airplane Maintenance Costs and
*...* <http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/2007/TM-2007-213652.pdf>
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
<http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:NZVx737jHW0J:gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/report
s/2007/TM-2007-213652.pdf+German+aircraft+water+injection&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2
&gl=us&client=firefox-a>
cosponsored by the *German* National Organizing Committe, DGLR, and MTU
AERO Engines *.....* Therefore, *water injection* for commercial
*aircraft* is presently *...*
gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/2007/TM-2007-213652.pdf
WW-II RAF, AAF, GAF *Aircraft* Terms and Meanings used in air combat
*...*
<http://www.taphilo.com/JG26/WW-II-ETO-Aircraft-Terms-RAF-AAF-GAF.shtml>
*Water*-methanol *injection* See MW5O. "Wild Boar" Night-fighter
operations without ground *...* Y-Gerät Equipment for using "Y" guidance
on *German aircraft*. *...*
www.taphilo.com/JG26/WW-II-ETO-*Aircraft*-Terms-RAF-AAF-GAF.shtml
P-47 THUNDERBOLT <http://www.chuckhawks.com/p47.htm>
The Republic Aviation Corporation (previously Seversky *Aircraft* Corp.
*....* This was a maximum load and you had to use *water injection* to
get airborne. *...*
www.chuckhawks.com/p47.htm
Focke-Wulf 190F
<http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/focke_190f.htm>
*...* hp for brief periods by using a methanol-*water injection* system
called MW-50, *...* Unlike many captured *German* jet *aircraft*, FE-117
never flew in the *...*
www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/*aircraft*/focke_190f.htm
Focke-Wulf ( Kurt Tank ) Ta 152
<http://members.aol.com/pelzig/ta152.htm>
One such *German aircraft* was the Focke-Wulf Ta 152, whose blueprints
were *...* nitrous oxide *injection* ) kit or the MW50 ( methanol-*water
injection* ) kit, *...*
members.aol.com/pelzig/ta152.htm
*[PDF]*
Frank Walker - "What can I do about this problem?"
<http://www.enginehistory.org/Frank%20WalkerWeb1.pdf>
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
<http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:bJL4EuuHkEIJ:www.enginehistory.org/Fra
nk%2520WalkerWeb1.pdf+German+aircraft+water+injection&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl
=us&client=firefox-a>
precision pumps, had perfected direct fuel *injection* for their large
*aircraft* engines. *German* engineers injected *water* directly into
the cylinders as well. *...*
www.enginehistory.org/Frank%20WalkerWeb1.pdf
BMW 801 Radial Engine | Aviation Blueprints | FW190 *Aircraft*
<http://www.aviationshoppe.com/BMW-801.html>
It also powered many other Luftwaffe *aircraft*. Like most *German* aero
engines, the BMW 801 did not *...* The BMW 801D-2 was fed by
methanol-*water injection*. *...*
www.aviationshoppe.com/BMW-801.html
*Aircraft*: North American P-51D Mustang
<http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/northam/p-51d.htm>
*...* R-2800-18W 18 cylinder, twin row,air-cooled radial, 2450 hp with
*water injection* *...* The -51D, when outnumbered by *German aircraft*,
generally lost. *...*
aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/northam/p-51d.htm
-| PORSCHE |- By New Dimensions Ltd - European Tuning *...*
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=19&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ndimports.
com%2F01_por%2F00_shop%2Findex.html&ei=LVKyRuXdAZzsiAHF5sXrAQ&usg=AFQjCNH-IQ
YgL5t2eyasguzbtW9_D9uYaw&sig2=R_9YoOqNu7inDP3Zgo0ucQ>
Click to Buy Online Aquamist Systems are the latest generation of
*water*-*injection* equipment. The main function of these systems is to
suppress detonation *...*
www.ndimports.com/01_por/00_shop/index.html
Water injection *systems*, Methanol injection *systems* : *Aquamist*
<http://www.aquamist.co.uk/>
The encyclopedia of water injection *systems*, from the vary basic to
the the not-so-basic.
www.*aquamist*.co.uk/
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