[Amc-list] MW-50 = 'Meth Freaks' of the 1940's =

[Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thursday 02 August 2007 07:49:40 Don Johnson wrote:

> > Tom, I think you're off a little in your explanation of the use of water
> > injection. Water injection is used in aircraft to slow the onset of
> > detonation at high boost and power settings. Steam will not increase
> > cylinder pressures over what is obtained by burning gasoline, especially at
> > high boosts.
>   

I don't recall my source so I'll defer to you here. Somewhere though I recall 
a discussion of handling wasted heat -- since producing heat to increase gas 
pressure of course is all the burning gasoline is good for! -- but I could 
have the scale of things off, for starters, or just be plain old wrong (nahh, 
that never happens  :-) 

Was W.I. used WITH turbo/supercharging then?



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