Re: [Amc-list] 195.6 full flow oil filter/pump
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Re: [Amc-list] 195.6 full flow oil filter/pump



My first 64 had 232K on it.
IIRC, it's history was a valve job and in car rering about midway thru it's life

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
" I was different before people dared to be different" 

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> There were other seemingly odd and pointless (considering the engine was being 
> phased out) modifications made in the last year or two. The cam bearing size 
> changed in 64 or 65 also. Building a 195.6 made after mid 63 model year can be a 
> real headache getting the right cam and bearings now. I think the changes were 
> related to testing 232 items, but no way to verify that. Might have been changes 
> to reduce inventory, but I don't know if the late 195.6 cam bearings are the 
> same as the 232 or not -- of course the cam itself is different (195.6 is about 
> 3" shorter than a 232). Who knows? 
> 
> I'm not sure the lack of an oil filter is a long term reliability factor in the 
> old engine design. The first L-head I owned had 170K+ on it and had never been 
> torn apart. The first OHV I rebuilt had 130-140K on it and was still running 
> decent. It had been run hot one or two times to many and the rings were loosing 
> tension. The relatively slow turning engines seemed to be fine with a partial 
> flow filter. Solid lifters helped -- no small passages to stop up. That's one 
> reason the aluminum engine required a full flow filter. I've never seen a 
> hydraulic lifter engine without a full flow, but then by the time hydro lifters 
> became common so had the full flow filter. More filtering never hurt, as long as 
> there's plenty oil flow after the filtering. 
> 
> -------------------
> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:55:49 -0700
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> 
> Hell yeah! It looks like the weak point for long-term reliability with this 
> motor could be solved. It's odd they bothered to add it to the last year's 
> motors. It probably "fell out" of the 232 design/deploy phase; the aluminum 
> 195.6 apparently shares valve train components with the 232 (you can probably 
> drop 4.0 lifters in it!)
> 
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