Re: [Amc-list] Air shocks on Jav/AMX---a fix I found years ago

["Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here's my take on the staggered rear shock mounting on the 70 Javelin/AMX
cars.
In 69 the shocks are not staggered (both are behind the axle). In 70 AMC
staggered
the shocks (one in front of axle one behind) to enhance the cornering
ability of the
car. Reason? Trans Am homologation regulations for racing???
Yeah I know that's not why, but it's a good story, ain't it?
This here Duane guy has a great bunch of questions, I've often pondered why
the
shocks are staggered on the back of a 70 Jav or AMX. Anyone know why??
Armand


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Hacking" <dhacking@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Air shocks on Jav/AMX---a fix I found years ago


> Hmmm...back in 1977 when I first bought my first Javelin; that I still
> own...I made the mistake of putting air shocks on and soon noticed a
> crack in the trunk around the bracket where it is mounted.  I did not
> want to do any welding to the sheet metal; and it was just a crack, so I
> had a machine shop make a heavy metal plate to go underneath the
> trunk...but that's not the main reason I am writing.
>
> I noticed on the driver side there was a place on the frame of  the car
> just like the passenger side as if to be made for the shock to mount the
> same as the passenger side of the frame instead of onto the trunk.  I
> asked my Dad why they would mount it that way and he thought it was to
> provide a better ride.  Thinking that air shocks was probably an option;
> I thought there must be some jav's in salvage that have the other
> bracket that mounts to the springs in the opposite direction so that the
> upper side will mount to the bracket that was on the frame just like the
> passenger side...so I began looking for one... and if I couldn't find
> one I thought the proper fix would be to have one made.  Well, I found
> one in a salvage yard!  And it was obviously a factory bracket.  Just
> the opposite of the passenger side so the shock could be mounted on the
> frame on the passenger side!  And until now, I never thought anything
> about it again.  Now I'm wondering; am I the only one that has ever
> found one of these brackets?  Now that I think about it even more...I've
> owned over 70 AMC's , mostly Jav/AMX...and I've never seen another one.
>
>
> Kinda weird.  Anyone else ever seen one of these?
>
>
>
> rom: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: [Amc-list] air shocks on amx & javelins
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> This comes up from time to time and while I personally have had problems
> (dating back to 1977) with AMX and Javelin series with rear air shocks,
> here is a photo below of the damage one caused. As mentioned before,
> usually the upper shock tower on the driver side blows into the trunk,
> as while if you keep it below 60psi you should be fine, however some
> insist on more and all it takes is a small pothole, dip in road, possum
> or other critter, even speed bump, and below is what happens.
>
>
>
> The shock tower on back of a 68-69 and 70-74 was not intended to have
> that upwards pressure and it flimsy to begin with and anyone who has
> ever gotten under one of these knows not much to it, and you can see how
> AMC grafted the plate on driver side for the shock tower to basically
> sheetmetal.
>
>
>
> So when you are considering air shocks because you want big ass tires,
> or a lifted rear or something like that on your AMX or Javelin, consider
> below photo. I have had abuot 4 of them do this to me thru years and
> really difficult finding any welding shop willing to tackle, much less
> warranty the work if you need the 'air shock patch'.
>
>
>
> Again, your results may vary, like my old 68 AMX The Red Death had
> Gabriel air shocks on it for over 20 years and 170,000 miles with zero
> problems.
>
>
>
> This is off a auction on ebay for a 74 AMX:
>
>
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> http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/skbjrnkv/javelin/IMG_0137.jp
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