Re: [Amc-list] Saturn SC 2 - 'Regression Therapy' -
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Re: [Amc-list] Saturn SC 2 - 'Regression Therapy' -
- From: Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 03:21:11 -0400
Well ...YEahh~!........
I hate rust - every car I have / had gets rust from
this NEW YORK weather - even if it isn't WINTER........
acid rains land here from Ohio coal burners - forest is
'burnt' looking - my Cherokee has rot in the quarters now -
I'm using Rust Killing Paint they use on the North Sea Oil
Derrek Rigs - I HATE rust........
that said -
Saturn's Made in America - Saturn is ....... dunno how much longer
the way things are going -
all the great Saturn reviews I've read are the pre '03 cars -
people LOVE them........ the '03 and up reviews aren't so great
and the cars look ugly.
The SC 2 reminds me of those Studebaker 'Turret Top' cars -
'51 ?
Mine has got to be Black ..... maybe Green if I see one -
saw a Yellow....... eesch...
Recycling ?
Yeah - they said the same thing about Tires years ago -
were burning them in pits out in Cali. -
then - someone found a way to strip out the radial metals
& plys - ground up the rubber & made Sandals 'n such -
they sell.......
and - they use the ground up tire rubber in Roadway Tarmac -
repaving roads with used tire rubber in the mix - so NOW.....
used Tires are big money !
Composite added to something else at some point in time
will solve the problems - always has worked out that way -
just a combination for a new application.
Everything these days has a cash value - someone will figure
a way to make used Saturn composite panels paay........
In the meanwhile - I'll take that weight savings all the way
to my AMC Kammback project.......$$$ I'm not paying hauling
around STEEL panels 'n skins that I'd have to pay $$ to get
fixed after the weather takes its' toll in 2 years sitting
outside in the Condo lot........them Venolia pins cost MONEY!
Rambler Mentality ......... ;)
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Garry Nordstrom wrote:
> you like these cars, just think of what they are made of and how they
> can be recycled. As of now, here in the U.S. we do not know what to
> do with the composite bodies.. Composite materials must be addressed,
> and I have talked to Saturn, they have no answer, I would much rather
> have metal
> Garry-non tree hugger, just practical
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:19 AM
> Subject: [Amc-list] Saturn SC 2 - 'Regression Therapy' -
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> www.cardomain.com/MakeModel/*Saturn*/SC
>>
>>
>> Check some of these SC 2 Saturn rides -
>>
>>
>> I like these Cars !
>>
>>
>> Got a neighbor with a Silver '02 3dr.
>> SC 2 in the Condo lot here --
>>
>> chin spoiler air intake for the '02 looks fine
>> [lose the license plate to a different position]
>>
>>
>> - and I like the Tail light treatment - perfect
>> for a 'Lo-Wing' treatment.
>>
>>
>> Car has some funkie NASH / AMC overtones to it -
>> like ..... - *ginchie* moldedness with accents
>> and a shovel nose Aero thing going on.
>>
>>
>> These may be the best 'undiscovered'
>> lo-buk / high return fuel efficient
>> ride - forget the Prius - and
>> the body panels won't rust.
>>
>>
>> I'm looking at a 2002 in the near term -
>> maybe Black, or Red..... Blue would be cool.
>>
>>
>> I love my Black Cherokee 2dr. 5spd -
>> 'Panzer' crawling over plow'd me in
>> snow banks in the parking lot after a
>> New York Winter storm.
>>
>>
>> However ..............- we're going
>> to see $4.19 Gal. fuel for awhile
>> - and -
>> $4.50 Gal. will be the 'norm' until
>> we make nice with South America so as to bring
>> E-85 to the East Coast.
>>
>>
>> To keep 'Streetin an AMC' ?
>>
>>
>> I like sixes, yet...where's
>> the American V8 sounds that 'made it all happen' -
>>
>> now it's 'The Automotive Age of the Dinosaur' -
>>
>> they' ain't bellowing on the Main St. tar pits
>> anymore - ........
>>
>> they're selling on Barrett - Jackson for half
>> a mill !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So maybe not that Quaad Cam alloy bling -
>>
>> the only one that SOUNDS any good is the
>> LINCOLN 5.4 with a 4.17" stroke thru duals.
>>
>>
>> AMC V8 motors SOUND good - so maybe a
>>
>> 360 built for Torque / Mileage with a 5 spd. stick ?
>>
>> Keep the lighter cast 3.44" stroke crank - the $199.00
>> Forged Rods off eBay - coatings on the bearings / piston
>> skirts - a set of those Ultra Light Weight Tool Steel
>> Wrist Pins / Teflon Buttons that Venolia has - the
>> entire set would weigh about as much as two stock AMC wrist
>> pins.....need to check for a light flywheel -
>>
>>
>> I ...... remember reading the Cam Catalogs & snickering
>> at their 'Mile o' More'listings ?
>>
>>
>> I also recall summer evenings & $0.29.9 Gal. Gasoline at HESS
>> and a fill up for $7.00......... SUNOCO 260 ?
>>
>>
>> 20 x $4.00 = $80.00 a Tankful ?
>>
>>
>> OK - fess up > who here voted for 'NIXON' ?
>>
>> ..."We Need 'Dick' in The White House"... bumper
>> stickers on 1969 Merc */Marauders/*
>> <http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=RUC&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=1969+Merc+Marauders&spell=1>
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>> Maybe a TBI on a something 4bbl. intake could
>> keep cruises & shows a reality - without spending
>> the Motel 6 cash for Fuel...... mmAn! ........
>>
>>
>> - how quickly things do change !
>>
>>
>>
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>> milnersXcoupe |_ |
>> "The Heretic" |/ __-__
>> \ /~ ~~-_
>> ~~ -~~\ ~\
>> / | \
>> , / / \
>> // _ _---~~~ //-_ \
>> / (/~~ ) _____/-__ ~-_ _-\ _________
>> / _-~\\0) ~~~~ ~~-_ \__--~~ `\ ___---~~~ /'
>> /_-~ _-/' )~/ /'
>> (___________/ _-~/' _-~~/ _-~
>> _ ----- _~-_\\\\ _-~ /' __--~ (_ ______---~~~--_
>> _-~ ~-_~\\\\ ( ( -_~ ~-_ | ~-_
>> /~~~~\ \ \~~ ~-_ ~-_ ~\ ~~--__-----_ \
>> ; / \ ______-----\ ~-__~-~~~~~~--_ ~~--_ \ .
>> | | \((*)~~~~~~~~~~| __--~~ ~-_ ) | |
>> | \ |~|~---------)__--~~ \_____________/ / ,
>> \ ~-----~ / /~ ) \ ~-----~ /
>> ~-_ _-~ /_______________________________/ `-_ _-~
>> ~ ----- ~ ~ ----- ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [Amc-list] The Hornet can reclaim the garage!
>> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Message-ID: <001501c79756$a9a2aa20$05de0d82@john1>
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>>
>> Bill & Joe et al
>>
>> Snip
>> Used Saturns are common in the junkyards
>> here (and I image so in Phoenix too) so if you do
>> screw up a body panel while "learning" I think you
>> could easily find a replacement...cheap (AMC content
>> again).
>> Snip
>>
>> Thanks for the help, instructions and moral support
>> I got everything apart this afternoon and purchased
>> the repair parts and will re-assemble tonight if all
>> goes well and my back holds out. The parts were
>> available at the Dealer and cheaper than the same
>> parts I bought last month for my Town and Country.
>>
>> A friend of mine North of here just sold his wrecking
>> yard last year and basically had the same thing
>> to say about early Saturns, defined as those which
>> were NOT re-badged Opals.
>> Not only are they easily repaired compared to almost
>> anything of those years due to access designed into
>> them, how novel, but the chain drive overhead cam
>> engines last almost forever if you keep oil in them.
>> He had used Saturns out there that he sold and
>> financed that had between 300 and 400 thousand
>> miles on them. Mine was purchased used in 1999
>> with 56,000 miles on it and is just ready to turn
>> 100,000 miles. They are really neat cars and easy
>> to work on. Rear disk brakes replaced in 20 min.
>> per side from pick up wrenches and jack to putting
>> them down is only one of many examples.
>> The sun here does beat the heck out of the plastic
>> but it is holding up better than any other plastic
>> components I have seen. Re-do the Black/Gold
>> flecked paint on it and add some ghost flames
>> and polish the wheels up good and some interior
>> work it will be better than new!
>> I've been saving this car from beating it up and
>> now that gasoline is over $3.00/gal it is time to
>> start using something that will get 30 miles/gal+.
>> But tonight I should be able to put the Hornet back
>> into the garage.
>> John.
>>
>>
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