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Today's Topics:
1. 71 Javelin Exhaust (Nick ALFANO)
2. Can anyone identify which pistons these are (Nick ALFANO)
3. Re: 65 Marlin Instrum Bulbs/headlight swtich (Ken Siroonian)
4. Re: 65 Marlin Instrum Bulbs/headlight swtich (Matt Haas)
5. Re; Exhaust Manifold Mystery (John Elle)
6. Re: 1959 Rambler w/Diesel Motor - $1100 (Sandwich Maker)
7. Re: 79 CJ7 Transmission ID ?? (Sandwich Maker)
8. AMC INK (namdra@xxxxxxxx)
9. Re: 79 CJ7 Transmission ID ?? (msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx)
10. 68 AMX dash & headliner wanted (Eddie Stakes)
11. 69 AMX for sale (Eddie Stakes)
12. 69 AMX, 343, 4spd for sale (Eddie Stakes)
13. 70 Javelin wanted (Eddie Stakes)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 05:39:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 71 Javelin Exhaust
To: amc list <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, The Voice <mediatalker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <140126.36168.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Bob,
Two sets come to mind for a 71 Javelin that fit really
well. Hooker Super Comps and the 1&5/8" Hedmans. The
Hooker headers hang a little low on the passenger side
but usually isn't a problem unless you have the front
end sitting low as well. If you don't have much of a
cam, then the Edelbrock shorty headers will work
without any collector issues as they end right where
the stock manifolds would have.
Nick Alfano
Alfano Performance
Kenosha, WI. 53142
262-308-1302
262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends.
From: "The Voice" <mediatalker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: 1971 Javelin Exhaust
> Eddie,
> I have a 71 Javelin 360 with headers. They need to
be replaced. Does
> anyone make good headers for this car. Ones that
don't drag on
passenger
> side. Should I go back to the stock log manifolds.
What sizes pipes,
> muffler type, out the back or cutoffs. What's the
best performance
exhaust
> system for this car.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob Dire
> Cucamonga, Ca.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 05:46:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Can anyone identify which pistons these are
To: amc list <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Dan Curtis <d.curtis@xxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20070102134621.82625.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Dan,
These look like a set of custom forged pistons where
the customer asked for a dish designed around a
specific compression and quench area he/she wanted.
Doesn't look to be anything odd to me and they look
new.
Nick Alfano
Alfano Performance
Kenosha, WI. 53142
262-308-1302
262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends
Message: 3
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:37:04 -0700
From: "Dan Curtis" <d.curtis@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Can anyone identify which pistons
these are
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I can't quite figure out which pistons are in this 390
motor that I am
buying with the SC/Rambler behind it. They are
reported to be .040 over
but
I have never seen this particular design. Has anyone
on the list seen
this
setup before?
http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/Donutblue/A%20theme%20SC%20Rambler/?action=view?t=DSCF0024.jpg
http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h170/Donutblue/A%20theme%20SC%20Rambler/?action=view?t=DSCF0025.jpg
Regards,
Dan Curtis
d.curtis@xxxxxxx
602-317-2018
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 21:58:19 -0500
From: Ken Siroonian <KSiroonian@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 65 Marlin Instrum Bulbs/headlight swtich
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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thanks to you jay, and the others for their words of advise, I am going
to try that. i also went on line and was surprised to find that for
13.99 you can buy new ones fomr advanced auto parts. they show a
listing for 75-80 pacers, and 81 and up concords and eagles, hard to
beleive its a common part liek that so thatsz great news for all of
us., might be worth it for a spare anyway. and I think its the similar
to a ford part too maybe thats why. regards to all,
On January 1, 2007 Jay Ciampi wrote:
> You can clean the rheostat with TV tuner cleaner and that will help
as long
> as the wire of the rheostat isn't burned and causing the bad spot.
>
> Jay
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 10:40:08 -0500
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 65 Marlin Instrum Bulbs/headlight swtich
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <459A7CD8.9010700@xxxxxxx>
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The two big differences I've seen in switches is how they mount and the
wiring connector.
Also, the last time I replaced a headlight switch (78 El Camino which
had the same problem as your car), I had a heck of a time finding a
decent switch. I started with one made by Wells and it was just garbage.
It was literally worse than what was in the car. The second one I tried
was made by Echlin and it had a bad circuit breaker in it. I ended up
with one made by Borg Warner. My 68 American has one made by Standard in
it which has never given me a problem but I replaced that switch about
10 years ago so I don't know if the quality is still there or not. My
advice to you is to buy either a Borg Warner or an AC Delco switch.
BTW, I was looking on AC Delco's site and the switch you want it C1549
(they didn't have it listed under the Pacer but I was able to cross
reference one of the switches from Advance's site) and it was used up to
91 in the Cherokees (and mid 70's Dodges) so you could always pick one
up from a Jeep dealer if you wanted to.
Matt
Ken Siroonian wrote:
> thanks to you jay, and the others for their words of advise, I am going
> to try that. i also went on line and was surprised to find that for
> 13.99 you can buy new ones fomr advanced auto parts. they show a
> listing for 75-80 pacers, and 81 and up concords and eagles, hard to
> beleive its a common part liek that so thatsz great news for all of
> us., might be worth it for a spare anyway. and I think its the similar
> to a ford part too maybe thats why. regards to all,
>
>
>
> On January 1, 2007 Jay Ciampi wrote:
>
>> You can clean the rheostat with TV tuner cleaner and that will help
> as long
>> as the wire of the rheostat isn't burned and causing the bad spot.
>>
>> Jay
--
mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:59:27 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Re; Exhaust Manifold Mystery
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <000d01c72e86$fe7bf3a0$dddd0d82@john1>
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Todd
Snip
I have a set of exhaust
manifolds from a 78 Matador and also a set from a Grand Wagoneer (late
70's,
not sure of the year). I had always assumed that they were the same,
but
they're not. The driver's side is the same, but the passenger side is
different. The manifolds from the Wagoneer extend down 2 or 3 inches
lower
than the ones from the Matador. Both were V8's of course. The Matador
has a
360 and the Grand Wagoneer had a 401.
Can anybody shed any light on this? Why would AMC have made two
different
parts for the passenger side?
Todd
Snip
Here is another variation of an answer to this question.
The intermediate body style (or compact depending on your definition
that was announced in 1970) when used with the OEM V8 engine had to use
the 1970 "Log" type manifold to clear the strut rod mounting bracket on
the passenger side. This manifold was used originally only in 1970 on
the Dog Leg cylinder heads for the V8. The cars are the Gremlin, Hornet,
Concord and Spirit. All other AMC cars did not have this interference
problem. The "Free Flow" exhaust manifolds were announced in 1971 and
used supposedly exclusive on all other V8 applications to end of
production. If you were to install a V8 in an I6 equipped Hornet etc.
you either had to install the 1970 log type manifold on the passenger
side or notch the strut rod mount for clearance. Both of these
approaches have been done. The driver's side used the Freeflow manifold
introduced in 1971.
As any of the cars you have removed an engine from could have had some
time in the past a replacement engine installed that was originally in
one of the 4 cars with the interference problem that might be one source
of how they got that way. As the exhaust systems are not interchangeable
though but as some parts of the country such as where I live exhaust
systems are primarily bent to fit replacing the exhaust system is not a
difficult or even one that takes much thought.
However periodically over the years I have run across reports of a
second type of freeflow exhaust manifolds that are physically larger
than the "normal" ones and when I do run across reports of them they
seem to be found on early to mid 70's Jeep truck applications which is
all I know about them.
Last but not least, AMC has done some not quite understandable or
logical OEM assembly practices that defy description periodically which
in this case may have something to do with running out of parts at the
moment a particular car goes down the line.
While this is probably more information than you ever wanted to know, I
hope it helps answer the question
John
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:28:43 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1959 Rambler w/Diesel Motor - $1100
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200701021728.l02HShc02817@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx>
"
" My sediments exactly. I've thought a long time about doing something
" like this, either with a 58-60 (love the retro look) or 64-65 (like the
" quasi-turbine look and the extra room) American 2-door. I'd been looking
" for a source for a medium size four or small six diesel. I had forgotten
" about the Nissan, I'll have to add that to my list. I would love to have
" a veggie Rambler for a fair weather driver...
i've been thinking about dieselizing a cherokee. for them, toyota is
a natural choice as they both used similar aisin-warner trannies; i
narrowed it down to a 2L-TE with a stick for my approach, but volvo
also used the aw auto and when they dropped the vw diesel and started
making their own they put them together for at least a few years. bad
news: volvo doesn't sell diesel cars here. also, the mill is a -5-.
good news: volvo marine does sell the engine here, and it's powerful -
160 and 190 hp from a 2.4L! that still leaves you scratching for the
flexplate etc unless you can find a helpful parts person, but it's a
big step forward.
toyota diesels - and most japanese engines - are available pretty
reasonably as low mileage used pulls from japan.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:43:22 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 79 CJ7 Transmission ID ??
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200701021743.l02HhMR02928@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
"
" []
"
" There is an unconfirmed belief that T-18's were not available from the factory behind 304's and were 6-cylinder transmissions only, but I have run into a few people that swear that they have owned their 304/T-18 CJ's ever since they rolled off the lot (but never provided me with the VIN). A T-150 to T-18 swap can be done with 100% factory parts, which would make the vehicle appear that it had always been that way from the factory. If he wants to know if it is the factory transmission, decoding the VIN will give him the answer.
the t-18 is a lot longer than the t150 so it takes a lot of factory
parts to make the swap. advance adapters has a custom mainshaft and
t/c adapter for np435 4sp that makes the ford version a direct swap
for the t150.
an intriguing digression i've never heard fully decided either way is
that afaik the np435 is essentially a 4sp version of the 5sp np540
with a spacer where 2nd would be, thus explaining the bizarre shift
pattern. this raises the question of whether the aa mainshaft would
also work in a np540... i did discover that 540s were made with lots
of gear combos, and the one jeepers would want is a np540fl from a
ford f500. they were used late '60s to early '80s at least, with 300
sixes and 360 v8s, and have the widest ratios: 7+:1 granny 1st, ~4:1
synchro 2nd...
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:19:04 -0600
From: namdra@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC INK
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20070102.121904.-16487787.1.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
The Jan. 1, 2007 issue of AutoWeek does a 3/4 page article on the 65
Rambler Classic 770 V8.
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!
'07 AMC NATIONALS - Sep. 6-8, 2007 - Cordova Dragway Park, Cordova, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:30:27 +0000
From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 79 CJ7 Transmission ID ??
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<010220071830.25178.459AA4C300035A7D0000625A2207300793019D0A0790019D9F9C03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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A lot of factory parts? How do you figure that? Doesn't the CJ T-18 use the same crossmember and already has the correct input shaft? The only things that pop into my head that you'd probably have to chase down are driveshafts and maybe the trans tunnel cover. Are you thinking of a T-18 from a full-size Jeep? In that case I would agree with you due to the long input shaft.
BTW, since I wrote that last reply someone finally sent me a VIN from their CJ that appears to denote a factory 304/T18 combo. I'd be more inclined to believe it if they sent a picture, though. Its not like its hard to figure out what the V8 VIN should be...
As for the np540, its probably a good setup based on the gear ratios and its about 40lbs ligther than the Clarks, but I still don't think many Jeepers are going to go running after a manual trans that weighs 160lbs by itself. I can see it as more justifiable in a full-size Jeep, but if you're going to have the extra length on hand anyway, I think most people that have the real estate in their rig may opt for more modern, synchronized hardware with a bigger aftermarket like the NV4500. The other issue is transfer case compatibility. Unless you're running a divorced transfer case, this could be a bigger headache than mating it to the engine. A 7:1 first gear is great, but not if you're stuck with a NP205 or some other 2:1 transfer case. The T-18's 6.32 + a factory NP 2.62 or 2.72:1 transfer case still beats it. And if you're building your rig for low-gear action, do you really intend for it to see enough highway that you need an OD? YMMV...
I'm running 1-ton gear under my CJ-8 and the current drivetrain is a wide T-18 mated to a 1980 Scout Dana 300. The wide T-19 would be nice, but I might consider one of the big 5-speeds if there was a decent transfercase to be used. Its already going to be heavy with the V8 and D60/D70 + armor, winch, etc. I'll just leave the little lady at home and then the trans would only "weigh" 50lbs. Lol...
-Spro
-------------- Original message --------------
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
> the t-18 is a lot longer than the t150 so it takes a lot of factory
> parts to make the swap. advance adapters has a custom mainshaft and
> t/c adapter for np435 4sp that makes the ford version a direct swap
> for the t150.
> an intriguing digression i've never heard fully decided either way is
> that afaik the np435 is essentially a 4sp version of the 5sp np540
> with a spacer where 2nd would be, thus explaining the bizarre shift
> pattern. this raises the question of whether the aa mainshaft would
> also work in a np540... i did discover that 540s were made with lots
> of gear combos, and the one jeepers would want is a np540fl from a
> ford f500. they were used late '60s to early '80s at least, with 300
> sixes and 360 v8s, and have the widest ratios: 7+:1 granny 1st, ~4:1
> synchro 2nd...
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay the genius nature
> internet rambler is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:15:23 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 68 AMX dash & headliner wanted
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: jbouder@xxxxxxxxxxx
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I am looking for a black dash complet and a black head liner for a 1968 AMX
J.Bouder (717) 393-1466 Lancaster PA email jbouder@xxxxxxxxxxx
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anyone with these items feel free to give them a shout above, thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:14:25 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 69 AMX for sale
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: hiltoncharles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <012701c72ea5$d3369640$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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For Sale 1969 AMX. 390 4 speed car, balanced and blueprinted. Many extras,
rear window louvers, traction bars, hooker headers, custom interior, new
paint. Many many extras. For more information contact: Chuck 423-487-5233 or
hiltoncharles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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anyone interested in the AMX above give them a shout, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:16:30 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 69 AMX, 343, 4spd for sale
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <012901c72ea5$d3d8c9b0$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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1969 AMC AMX 343 4-Speed. Brown with black interior. Nice driver, some rust.
Garaged and only driven on sunny days. Asking $6,250.00 OBO. Call Nathan
(518) 727-9100. Located in Albany, NY
==========================
anyone interested in the AMX give them a shuot above thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:17:14 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 70 Javelin wanted
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: kort_j@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <012a01c72ea5$d429cfe0$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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WANTED: Perhaps someone in the AMC hobby has a 1970 Javelin Project
languishing and needs to find a new home. I may just have that home. Must be
a V-8 1970 Javelin, 304 SST a plus. Manual Trns, twin grip are a plus but
not critical. I am willing to change this all over anyway. Interior must be
original and complete, black or red is a big plus. Solid floors, rockers and
trunk is a must, however a managable amount of natural unit body lightening
is acceptable, original white car a plus. Front sheet metal is not much
concern, going all fiberglass. Window glass must be all complete and
unbroken and NO air conditioning. My vision is to build a White/Red, red
stripe 304 SST with fun modifications. Car need not run or even be assembled
but must be towable. This is much to require but ask and ye shall find. Will
travel to pick up. John Kort 636 931 7432 kort_j@xxxxxxx
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anyone with a 70 Javelin for sale give them a shout above, thanks
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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