I looked at the site. It's obvious you can't have ANY torque at ZERO rpm!! Okay, I understand what you're saying -- that from idle the engine can be loaded up and have almost immediate full torque. Technically it should have given torque as "from idle" or listed idle rpm... which is probably in the neighborhood of 5K+ (could be 10K+ for a turbine, but I doubt that one was a high speed turbine). That would have been more correct to me. But then they did list torque at OUTPUT SHAFT speed. You have to look at the specs twice to catch exactly what they mean! When used to looking at piston engine specs, it's misleading at first -- but so is comparing apples to oranges!! I was referring to engine speed, not output shaft speed. What Chrysler meant was with the engine running it would have 425 lb/ft or torque available right from the start, and wouldn't bog down and take time to produce pulling power like a piston engine does. But the turbine has to be up to running speed first. They don't take long to warm up once started, it should be ready to turn up to redline from ignition in 5-10 seconds, but it must be up to speed. _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com