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Today's Topics:

   1. overweight Americans (Tom Jennings)
   2. Re: What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! (Sandwich Maker)
   3. Re: overweight Americans (Sandwich Maker)
   4. Re: My Son's AMX made car craft. (Mark Price)
   5. Re: Eagle Kammback Ltd. ? (Mark Price)
   6. Re: VAM Rally GT pix (Mark Price)
   7. Re: overweight Americans (Tom Jennings)
   8. Re: Sons AMX made CARCRAFT (walt)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:20:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] overweight Americans
To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:27:00 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!!
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200612190327.kBJ3R0C26971@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" 
" On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, farna@xxxxxxx wrote:
" 
" > Tom, that would be APU (auxilliary power unit). 
" > []
" > They produce hp at very high rpm
" > as Andrew pointed out -- no useable torque, and a very narrow
" > power band. 
" 
" The guy who said his friend stuck one in a bike, took the thing
" apart and used the turbine and gearbox. That's the key to these
" things -- they have a gearbox that brings shaft speed down to a
" few K Rpms for the alternator. I saw one with one cover removed
" (not much of a view though). The turbine is really small,
" the APU is 1/2 jet, 1/4 gearbox, 1/4th alternator (vaguely). 
" 
" I agree, without the special gearbox it's uselessly high rpm.

even with it, it's pretty useless.  -power- throttles well, but -rpm-
does not.  the one street car i heard of with a turboprop in it had
an automatic trans and was driven more with the brake than the
throttle.  iirc it 'idled' at almost 60 mph.

now if you replace the alternator with a hydrostatic transmission...
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:31:55 -0500 (EST)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] overweight Americans
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200612190331.kBJ3Vta27029@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
" 
" MODERN MOTOR CAR (May 1950) says that the new 1950 Rambler
" weighed approximately 2400 lbs. I assume they got that number
" from Nash propaganda (doesn't say).
" 
" []
" 
" 
" The American got longer and longer, so that accounts for some
" of it. But where's all the weight?

i can't point to my source, but iirc the '65 american 2dr sed was 2640
lbs and the '66, 2625.  the 199/232 is almost exactly the same weight
as the 196 as evidenced by use of the exact same front springs for
both in '64-up americans.

make sure you're comparing apples and apples; creeping std. equip can
add a startling amount to 'bare' weights.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:42:58 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] My Son's AMX made car craft.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Teamamc <Teamamc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <14939475.1166499778371.JavaMail.root@web31>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I saw the pic. Any AMC coverage is good coverage!
I'll keep  my Carcraft subscription as long as the keep giveing us the coverage!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Teamamc <Teamamc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> I sent in a few Pic's of My Son's first Smoke show with his 1980 AMX in
> June.
> Just showed up in Januarys Carcraft.
> Havn't seen the Pic's yet.
> Below is a link to the first burn out video with the 304 auto and 2nd gear
> only.
> 
> http://videos.streetfire.net/video/wm/37f0f608-6139-4fdd-8256-ad101cf1af3c.h
> tm
> 
> I still have to post #2 with the stock 360 auto 3.54.
> Bryan
> 
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:44:54 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Eagle Kammback Ltd. ?
To: hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <25633256.1166499894204.JavaMail.root@web31>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

IIRC The Kammback could be had in a "Limited" form!
I seem to remember one or two coming thru the dealer way back when.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> 
>   My Kammback came as a DL -
> 
>   I have never seen or heard of a Kammback Ltd.
>  - but since the Eagle line carried the Ltd. package - 
> has anyone ever heard or seen one ?
> 
>   Did the Spirit line come with an Ltd. package ?
> 
>   Did the SX / 4 Ltd. have the wood grain panels
> on the doors - or is that only seen in the 2dr. - 
> 4dr. - Wagon Ltd. 'Senior' vehicles ?
> 
> 
>   [ yes, thinking of adding the wood grained door
> panels and power windows at the moment - 
> part of my 'Winter AMC  'Phunk' mulling yearly process..... ]
> 
> 
> 
>         =Bt=
>   milnersXcoupe
>    "The Heretic"
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:46:20 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] VAM Rally GT pix
To: hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <19530538.1166499980479.JavaMail.root@web31>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I hope the injectors work out ok, glad they arrived.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Now, why do you suppose VAM could come up with such a nice looking 
> seat
> and we got stuck with almost flat buckets???!!!! -- Mark Price
> markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV
> 
> 
> <>
> 
> 
> I totally agree - they look like something in the new GTO - only
> a quarter century before their release !
> 
> But the Door Panel Chrome is as lame as it gets !
> 
> { those injectors arrived Mark - look pretty good ! - installing
> this coming weekend }
>   
> 
>         =Bt=
>   milnersXcoupe
>    "The Heretic"
> 
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:49:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] overweight Americans
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612182035150.5995@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Sandwich Maker wrote:

> make sure you're comparing apples and apples; creeping std. equip can
> add a startling amount to 'bare' weights.

It does complicate things. A real comparison would have to
include pretty much identical configuration (manual steering,
trans, six, bench seat, etc)


But if 1950 is 2400 and change, and 1965 is 26xx, that's not
much, considering it's a foot longer. 66 to 1970, now that's
400 lbs -- where did it all go?!

Weights seem to balloon in the 1970's. By no coincidence my
interest in cars wanes then too; not weight so much as doodads
and electric window winders and such foolishness.




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:40:20 -0500
From: "walt" <amc4me@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Sons AMX made CARCRAFT
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <003701c7235a$14df8450$3201a8c0@computer>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Bryan.Congrats on the photo.I  saw the picture,and with much
admiration,because i cannot wait for to see that smile on my own sons
face.It's a Carguys dream,i think,to have the fun factor,show instantly.I'v
thought quite often,of how many kids,never felt a V 8 power up in tire
smoke,and take off in a cool line of twinn tire tracks,or start going
sidways,and correct for it while holding her wide open,coming out of the
hole sideways,of course with the wheels pointing straight  YEE HAA.GOD i
LOVE BURNOUTS.Congratulations again,it's a kodak moment.Walter UPSTATE N.Y.
73 Sportabout,68 Jav,67 American



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