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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Thinking about cruise control (Jeff Reeves)
2. Re: stuff gets old (Mark Price)
3. Re: Thinking about Cruise Control (Justin Shelton)
4. Re: Thinking about Cruise Control (Justin Shelton)
5. Re: Thinking about Cruise Control (Mark Price)
6. Re: stuff gets old (Widiker, John D)
7. Re: gremlin sundowner sighting- So Cal. (Wayne E LaMothe)
8. Re: Thinking about cruise control (Glen Hoag)
9. Re: Thinking about Cruise Control (Peter Marano)
10. Gremlin Sundowner (JOE FULTON)
11. Re: gremlin sundowner sighting- So Cal. (Larry R. Daum)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:50:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Reeves <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Thinking about cruise control
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Find a Concord/Eagle/Spirit to get the factory cruise from. It's the same amount of work (or less) as installing one of those cheapy aftermarket cruises, it has the correct factory appearance and function, and it's less likely to fail than the cheapy units. In fact, most of the aftermarket cruise units utilize the exact same servo assembly and control box that AMC used on their factory cruise units. I've done this exact same upgrade several times on AMCs, and it's not a bad job to do.
Those "magnet around the driveshaft" setups have never impressed me. It seems very makeshift at best and if the magnets ever come off or the flimsy sensor bracket gets bent, then what?
Jeff Reeves
Auburn, GA
94 Cherokee
79 Spirit GT
72 Javelin SST
69 Ambassador DPL
Message: 11
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:54:50 -0800 (PST)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
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I'm considering adding cruise control to my 77
Gremlin. The cheapest aftermarket kit I have found is
from Audiovox. It uses magnets (on the driveshaft
presumably) to detect the speed.
Does anyone have any experience with this unit or
should I try to pull a cruise from a later model AMC
Eagle or Concord?
Regards,
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:54:08 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] stuff gets old
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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If you feel out of place, Imagine the feelings that run thru ones head while being a virtual invalid for 4 month. One finds oneself questioning the real purpose of things. Life goes on around you. You add to the work load instead of carrying it. You see the real people that care, it is very easy to tell. The ones that care send you 4 get well cards and visit every other week even thoguh it takes them over an hour to get there. The people that raised you and had you get by with one visit in four months and 3 phone calls. The second set of people live closer!
Yeah, it's easy to get lost wondering where it all leads. Like stuff we all "get old".
Remember that the alternative to getting old is worse! The only real alterantive is after all to not go on at all!
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I believe that that is a recent phenomenon, historically speaking. Up until
> the last century, things stayed pretty much the same for the duration of a
> human lifetime (which was shorter then, to boot). Now, by the time you're
> grown up, all the technology you learned is obsolete. It seems it's now
> beginning to affect values and social structures as well. In a discussion
> about this with my wife recently I said, "if feel like the world I was
> raised to live in was all but over by the time I was old enough to take my
> place in it. Young folks today will no doubt feel that way when they reach
> middle age, I'd bet...
>
> Keleigh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:12:53 +0000
> From: jackbarncord@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [AMC-List] stuff gets old.
> To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC List)
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>
> Tom, upon occasion I will forward one of your posts to my brother, Frank
> called Lad. This morning I did so with your "stuff gets old" post. Here is
> a bit of his response to your question, "So why is it we drive these old
> things?!"
>
> Snip ----
>
> I can come up with many answers to Tom's rhetorical question, "So why is it
> we
> drive these old things?!" Among the many, the one I like the most: We were
> born in the wrong era. While things of today hold a curiosity and certain
> amount of "entertainment" value, the things of yesterday truly fascinate and
> captivate our thoughts. Have you ever said, "I was born a generation too
> late"?
> I know I have. As much as things of aviation grip my being, the fast-moving
> jets with their fly-by-wire technology and ability to accurately acquire and
> destroy targets miles away simply don't thrill me. Give me the cockpit of a
> Corsair or a Mustang or a you-name-it round engine or V-12 powered propeller
> plane and I'm in my element. I've never flown one, nor have I ever sat in
> one;
> but, I know it is my element. There has always been a feeling deep inside
> my
> gut for old airplanes that spewed to the surface the first time my hands
> were placed on a control yoke. It was unmistakable and familiar and
> somewhat eerie all at once. As Yogi Berra would say, "d?j? vu all over
> again." I knew how to fly and had only touched the yoke.
>
> It is that inexplicable love and familiarity with things of yesterday that
> pulls
> us back to the earlier time. Not because they're simpler, because in many
> ways
> they aren't; but, because they are comfortable in our hands.
>
> Lad
>
> End Snip ----
>
> My brother was an accomplished pilot holding a commercial rotary wing and
> single engine fixed wing license until an unexplained seizure grounded him
> for life. He is due to retire from the DOD, USTRANSCOM, in less than a
> year.
>
>
> AMC content: Doh! I'm lookin' at an SX4..... AMC number seven is in the
> wings.
>
> Jack
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:55:27 -0800
From: Justin Shelton <hydeparker@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Joe:
There is a complete (?) AMC cruise set-up on Ebay right now, but the auction ends 22 hours from when I'm sending this to you. Go to item # 180061695254.
Price as of now is only $39, and a lot of the parts look like they're still in original AMC packaging.
- Justin
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:54:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> I'm considering adding cruise control to my 77
> Gremlin. The cheapest aftermarket kit I have found is
> from Audiovox. It uses magnets (on the driveshaft
> presumably) to detect the speed.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with this unit or
> should I try to pull a cruise from a later model AMC
> Eagle or Concord?
>
> Regards,
> Joe Fulton
> Salinas, CA
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:55:29 -0800
From: Justin Shelton <hydeparker@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Joe:
There is a complete (?) AMC cruise set-up on Ebay right now, but the auction ends 22 hours from when I'm sending this to you. Go to item # 180061695254.
Price as of now is only $39, and a lot of the parts look like they're still in original AMC packaging.
- Justin
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:54:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <898630.61978.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I'm considering adding cruise control to my 77
> Gremlin. The cheapest aftermarket kit I have found is
> from Audiovox. It uses magnets (on the driveshaft
> presumably) to detect the speed.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with this unit or
> should I try to pull a cruise from a later model AMC
> Eagle or Concord?
>
> Regards,
> Joe Fulton
> Salinas, CA
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:03:59 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Unless your in a hurry I would look for a GM based add on kit on evilbay.
The magnetic kits do work well though.
Pulling cruise from any later model using the GM column will also work as long as it worked in the car it came from of course!
The main benefit you get from th efactory kit is not having the added magnets to deal with. You do have to change your speedo cable out to get factory units installed.
Don't get anything from an efi equipped vehicle or try to add cruise to a standard shift unless it is specific for standard shift! The EFI vehicles usually use the ecu to run the cruise, you don't want that and the programming of the standard shift units is different, plus the added clutch dissengagement switch. A friend put on in a stick car from an automatic. It did not work right at all and was downright dangerous!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm considering adding cruise control to my 77
> Gremlin. The cheapest aftermarket kit I have found is
> from Audiovox. It uses magnets (on the driveshaft
> presumably) to detect the speed.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with this unit or
> should I try to pull a cruise from a later model AMC
> Eagle or Concord?
>
> Regards,
> Joe Fulton
> Salinas, CA
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:17:07 -0500
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] stuff gets old
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I've felt like that since I was 15. For whatever reason the things I identify with had their hey day before I was even born.
The best I've been able to sum it up is the following:
I'm a Steve McQueen guy in a Ben Affleck world, and I'm none too happy about it either.
~J
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [AMC-List] stuff gets old
I believe that that is a recent phenomenon, historically speaking. Up until the last century, things stayed pretty much the same for the duration of a human lifetime (which was shorter then, to boot). Now, by the time you're grown up, all the technology you learned is obsolete. It seems it's now beginning to affect values and social structures as well. In a discussion about this with my wife recently I said, "if feel like the world I was raised to live in was all but over by the time I was old enough to take my place in it. Young folks today will no doubt feel that way when they reach middle age, I'd bet...
Keleigh
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:12:53 +0000
From: jackbarncord@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] stuff gets old.
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC List)
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Tom, upon occasion I will forward one of your posts to my brother, Frank
called Lad. This morning I did so with your "stuff gets old" post. Here is
a bit of his response to your question, "So why is it we drive these old
things?!"
Snip ----
I can come up with many answers to Tom's rhetorical question, "So why is it
we
drive these old things?!" Among the many, the one I like the most: We were
born in the wrong era. While things of today hold a curiosity and certain
amount of "entertainment" value, the things of yesterday truly fascinate and
captivate our thoughts. Have you ever said, "I was born a generation too
late"?
I know I have. As much as things of aviation grip my being, the fast-moving
jets with their fly-by-wire technology and ability to accurately acquire and
destroy targets miles away simply don't thrill me. Give me the cockpit of a
Corsair or a Mustang or a you-name-it round engine or V-12 powered propeller
plane and I'm in my element. I've never flown one, nor have I ever sat in
one;
but, I know it is my element. There has always been a feeling deep inside
my
gut for old airplanes that spewed to the surface the first time my hands
were placed on a control yoke. It was unmistakable and familiar and
somewhat eerie all at once. As Yogi Berra would say, "d?j? vu all over
again." I knew how to fly and had only touched the yoke.
It is that inexplicable love and familiarity with things of yesterday that
pulls
us back to the earlier time. Not because they're simpler, because in many
ways
they aren't; but, because they are comfortable in our hands.
Lad
End Snip ----
My brother was an accomplished pilot holding a commercial rotary wing and
single engine fixed wing license until an unexplained seizure grounded him
for life. He is due to retire from the DOD, USTRANSCOM, in less than a
year.
AMC content: Doh! I'm lookin' at an SX4..... AMC number seven is in the
wings.
Jack
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:17:53 -0500
From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] gremlin sundowner sighting- So Cal.
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I never heard of the Gremlin Sundowner model. I know the Eagles and
Concords had a Sundancer package in 82. Any pics or literature on the
web for the Gremlin Sundowner?
Wayne
Wayne & Lisa (Skeezix), Bolton Landing, NY,
http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/
AMO#8454, 83 Eagle Limited Wagon, 82 SX/4, 258 auto
69 Ambo coupe, 401, M12, 66 Ambo 990 Wagon, 327,PW,PB,PS,posi,AM/FM,AC
88 Jeep J10 360, auto- a Real truck
2001 Cherokee, 2000 Chrysler Cirrus (both hers)
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:19:50 -0700 "Keleigh Hardie"
<keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> That car belongs to Charlie, a guide for one of the island interior
> tour bus
> companies. He's owned it since it was new. (I met him on one of the
> planning
> trips for my wedding in Avalon last summer)...
>
> Keleigh
>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:06:07 -0500
> > From: Ken Siroonian <KSiroonian@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] gremlin sundowner sighting- So Cal.
> > To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > I was on a business trip to so cal/laguna beach last week, and on
> a
> > free day took the boat trip to Catlalina island with a colleague.
> took
> > a tour around the island and then did some walking, only to do a
> double
> > take and see a 2 tone gold/tan 1977 Gremlin "sundowner" parked on
> a
> > side street. It had the sundowner decal on the C pillar.
> >
> > =============================================================
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:27:10 -0600
From: Glen Hoag <hoag@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Thinking about cruise control
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Jeff Reeves <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Heathkit used to sell a version of the Dana (now Rostra) cruise
control system. It used the same servo and electronic control module
as the OEMs, but used a "magnet on the driveshaft" speed sensing
setup. I had one; it worked pretty well. The sensor is only as good
as the prep work you do and the tape you use to hold the magnets to
the driveshaft. Make sure everything is clean.
Of course, if you can get one of the tach generators that go in the
speedo cable, that would be better.
GM cars from the 1980s with cruise should also be suitable donors;
they used Dana cruise controls, plus they have the same steering
column, so the switch should fit. You might have to get a special
speedometer cable made up, though.
At some point, manufacturers began integrating cruise control into
their engine management systems, so the Dana setup fell out of favor.
--Glen
>Find a Concord/Eagle/Spirit to get the factory cruise from. It's the
>same amount of work (or less) as installing one of those cheapy
>aftermarket cruises, it has the correct factory appearance and
>function, and it's less likely to fail than the cheapy units. In
>fact, most of the aftermarket cruise units utilize the exact same
>servo assembly and control box that AMC used on their factory cruise
>units. I've done this exact same upgrade several times on AMCs, and
>it's not a bad job to do.
>
>Those "magnet around the driveshaft" setups have never impressed me.
>It seems very makeshift at best and if the magnets ever come off or
>the flimsy sensor bracket gets bent, then what?
>
>Jeff Reeves
>Auburn, GA
>94 Cherokee
>79 Spirit GT
>72 Javelin SST
>69 Ambassador DPL
>
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:54:50 -0800 (PST)
>From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <898630.61978.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>I'm considering adding cruise control to my 77
>Gremlin. The cheapest aftermarket kit I have found is
>from Audiovox. It uses magnets (on the driveshaft
>presumably) to detect the speed.
>
>Does anyone have any experience with this unit or
>should I try to pull a cruise from a later model AMC
>Eagle or Concord?
>
>Regards,
>Joe Fulton
>Salinas, CA
>
>
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--
Glen Hoag '75 Pacer 258 (x3)
hoag@xxxxxx '76 Pacer 258 (for parts)
Limestone County, Alabama '77 Pacer 258 (for kids)
'80 Pacer 258 DL wagon
'81 Concord DL 258
AMO #7895 AMCPC #471 '82 Spirit 151
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:41:45 -0600
From: Peter Marano <PMarano@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:54:50 -0800 (PST)
>From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [AMC-List] Thinking about Cruise Control
>To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Message-ID: <898630.61978.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>I'm considering adding cruise control to my 77
>Gremlin. The cheapest aftermarket kit I have found is
>from Audiovox. It uses magnets (on the driveshaft
>presumably) to detect the speed.
>
>Does anyone have any experience with this unit or
>should I try to pull a cruise from a later model AMC
>Eagle or Concord?
>
>Regards,
>Joe Fulton
>Salinas, CA
>
>
>
>
I remember buying an SX/4 with aftermaket cruise (magnets on the
driveshaft, knob on the turn signal stalk to select speed) and being
disapointed untill I used it; I actually liked dailing up my speed
better. Having said that I also added late 70's AMC cruise to my 1969
AMX , it was very simple.
Peter Marano
Kenosha WI
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:55:08 -0800 (PST)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Gremlin Sundowner
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <923887.69478.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Here is a link to an advertising brochure available at
McLelland's (sp?) Auto Literature.
http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/H3304.jpg
I have only seen one of these cars, in a Junkyard near
Sacramento.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:00:17 -0800
From: "Larry R. Daum" <mramc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] gremlin sundowner sighting- So Cal.
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: KSiroonian@xxxxxxx
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Yes, I have a piece of Literature for I believe a Pacer Sundowner from as I
recall 1976. I'd have to dig it out.
But Ford was not the only car company to put out a regional decal (ed)
model type car. The most know of the Ford's is
the Twister Mustang made for there Kansas City region , but AMC which had
it marketing heavily influenced by Ford marketing
did this sort of thing also. The Badger State Javelin , done for the
Milwaukee zone comes to mind, but there are others. The item of literature
I have is rare example of one which had enough promotion to have a item of
literature made. thanks , LRDaum
Re: [AMC-List] gremlin sundowner sighting- So Cal.
Date: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 04:17 PM
From:
<mailto:superglider@xxxxxxxx?subject=Re:%20%5BAMC-List%5D%20gremlin%20sundowner%20sighting-%20So%20Cal.>Wayne
E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
I never heard of the Gremlin Sundowner model. I know the Eagles and
Concords had a Sundancer package in 82. Any pics or literature on the
web for the Gremlin Sundowner?
Wayne
Wayne & Lisa (Skeezix), Bolton Landing, NY,
<http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/>http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/
AMO#8454, 83 Eagle Limited Wagon, 82 SX/4, 258 auto
69 Ambo coupe, 401, M12, 66 Ambo 990 Wagon, 327,PW,PB,PS,posi,AM/FM,AC
88 Jeep J10 360, auto- a Real truck
2001 Cherokee, 2000 Chrysler Cirrus (both hers)
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:19:50 -0700 "Keleigh Hardie"
<<mailto:keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxxxx>keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> That car belongs to Charlie, a guide for one of the island interior
> tour bus
> companies. He's owned it since it was new. (I met him on one of the
> planning
> trips for my wedding in Avalon last summer)...
>
> Keleigh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:06:07 -0500
> > From: Ken Siroonian <<mailto:KSiroonian@xxxxxxx>KSiroonian@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] gremlin sundowner sighting- So Cal.
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> > I was on a business trip to so cal/laguna beach last week, and on
> a
> > free day took the boat trip to Catlalina island with a colleague.
> took
> > a tour around the island and then did some walking, only to do a
> double
> > take and see a 2 tone gold/tan 1977 Gremlin "sundowner" parked on
> a
> > side street. It had the sundowner decal on the C pillar.
> >
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