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Today's Topics:
1. NEED to sell GOOD 360,re-buildable 343 (Joe)
2. Re: 196 ohv performance camshaft (Tom Jennings)
3. FRESH 390 crank ,block,401 block for sale (Joe)
4. Re: performance cam for 196 ohv (Tom Jennings)
5. for sale Valve cover spacers with chrome milodon covers (Joe)
6. Re: performance cam for 196 ohv (Tom Jennings)
7. Re: performance cam for 196 ohv (Mark Price)
8. Re: AMC Sighting Old Commercials (Tom Jennings)
9. 1953 2 door SEDAN NASH Airflite for sale (Joe)
10. 1966 DPL (Anthony)
11. Reply TV COmmercials (Richard Estermyer)
12. Re: 196 ohv performance camshaft (Sandwich Maker)
13. Re: Six or Eight speed manual trans, anyone? (Sandwich Maker)
14. Re: 1966 DPL (Mark Price)
15. Re: 287/327 Piston Heights (Mark Price)
16. Re: Six or Eight speed manual trans, anyone? (Tom Jennings)
17. Ranger OD, used (Tom Jennings)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:32:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] NEED to sell GOOD 360,re-buildable 343
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20061011163243.56569.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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AS my previous post stated..i'm STILL in the process
of re doing my garage. Insulating walls,nailing up
osb,painting..etc. Built the garage 5 years ago..no
$$$ to finish walls. NOW i have to move tons of
STUFF...just to see the walls!!Moved around
engines,blocks,trannies..etc. OUT of room!! NEED to
move the GOOD 360 with Performer intake,rebuildable
343,A/T trans for 343. The 360 is $350,343..$150
with/without trans.Could possibly deliver for fee.
Located in central Illinois. Please contact
direct.HAVE to finish garage. Then re-assemble wifes
74 AMX ...suspension,springs front/rear,replace
rearend,install engine,trans...etc!! THEN i can do my
Gremlin 401 swap!! NEED room. Thanks,Joe 309-338-3210(cell)
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:37:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 196 ohv performance camshaft
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, M Walter wrote:
> Hello,and bless your little turbo flathead hearts. And yes, it would be
> cool!!! My goal is to get more power from my dual holley 196 ohv engine.
> It seems that one of my few options is to put in a performance cam. A (dare
> I say it) turbo, sounds cool but I dont know what that does to the vaccuum
> advance or other vaccuum issues. But that is not what I'm looking to do. I
Well there's that... :-) But it's so easy for me to suggest
things, and have you do them for me :-) Send photos please!
> guess I'll have to start asking the engine shops about welding and grinding
> one. Yes, I'll send some pictures when I have it put back toghether again as
> Iam puttig in valves right now. THANK YOU redamc1963@xxxxxxxxxxx
I agree, a hotter cam would be the practical path to more power
especialyl if you've got it apart already.
I'm serious on the pictures though. If you're rebuilding a 196
ohv, hardly anyone knows anything about that motor, pictures
and how you go about putting it together would be a huge boon
to AMC history and fellow enthusiasts.
If you get a cam ground, post the specs, who ground it, and
the grind number.
Take 100 pictures, you can't take too many. Buy a few disposable
cameras if you must. I volunteer to scan them & upload somewhere
if you don't have a digital camera and the desire to do all
that web crap.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:38:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] FRESH 390 crank ,block,401 block for sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx
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By now you've read my other posts. Re-doing
garage.Need room. sold my 69 Jav project. For sale:
390 fresh crank. Turned .010/.010. $350.Next..68-69
390 block,needs sleeve $100/offer. 401 block,needs
sleeve...$200.Please contact direct.Parts located in
central Illinois. Thankyou,Joe 309-338-3210(cell)
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:38:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] performance cam for 196 ohv
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM wrote:
> The cam is definitely different from a flat head cam. The bearings are
> the same, so the cam would fit, but the lobe profiles are totally
> different.
Then they might make good cores!
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:41:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] for sale Valve cover spacers with chrome milodon
covers
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I still have more parts for sale. Pair of valve cover
spacers with Milodon chrome valve covers. Have
provisions for breathers,pcv...etc. $100 plus
shipping. Please contact direct. Thanks,Joe 309-338-3210(cell)
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] performance cam for 196 ohv
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM wrote:
> Now where have you guys heard about bolting a turbo flange directly to
> the L-head carb mount? ;> I mentioned I'd like to do that a lng time
> ago, with a 1V throttle body right between the head and turbo instead of
> the carb.
Oops, that was me stealing your idea. And I got a lot of money
from it to!!! :-)
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 9:45:54 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] performance cam for 196 ohv
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Yeah, exactly my thought!
especially if the base circle is the same or larger.
If it was larger you could get one regorund and not need to do the pushrod thing!
Just have them leave the base circle at the stock overhead cam spec!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM wrote:
>
> > The cam is definitely different from a flat head cam. The bearings are
> > the same, so the cam would fit, but the lobe profiles are totally
> > different.
>
> Then they might make good cores!
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC Sighting Old Commercials
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Hambrick, Barry wrote:
> Just thought that I would share a couple of old AMC commercials, the
> Rebel commercial is very funny. You will need "real player" installed in
> order to view these.
>
> http://www.tvparty.com/g2c/javelin00.ram
> http://www.tvparty.com/g2c/rebel00.ram
OK, those are funny!
Who saves this stuff, and how?!
I'm not sure if I'm glad or sad of it, but I remember that
Javelin ad!
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:51:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1953 2 door SEDAN NASH Airflite for sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx
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Located in central Illinois. Rare 2 door sedan..NOT
hardtop. 1953 Nash Airflite., No engine/trans. NEAT
hot rod project,swap onto newer frame for a full on
custom!!Good doors,1/4 panels,etc. Needs floor repair.
$350. Had to move out of garage to re-do garage. NOW
paying storage on this!! MUST move! Please contact
direct. Thanks,Joe. 309-338-3210(cell)
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:58:21 -0400
From: "Anthony" <f1boats@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 1966 DPL
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <000a01c6ed56$75d9dba0$6401a8c0@SERVER>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I have a 1966 Ambassador DPL parting out for free, or come get car f1boats@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:08:53 -0400
From: "Richard Estermyer" <javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Reply TV COmmercials
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:31:41 -0400
From: "Hambrick, Barry" <BHambrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC Sighting Old Commercials
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Just thought that I would share a couple of old AMC commercials, the
Rebel commercial is very funny. You will need "real player" installed in
order to view these.
http://www.tvparty.com/g2c/javelin00.ram
http://www.tvparty.com/g2c/rebel00.ram
Thanks,
Barry
THANKS Barry!
Those are GREAT. I especially liked in the 1st one the driver of the
corvette. Then the Rebel o ne was the fact that they were dodging, Ramblers
all along the roads!
Plus that reminded me that I think the most common phrase I hear is that "I
learned to drive in a Rambler" from people. Wonder IF these were any of
them???
THANKS, It made the day!
Richard
Richard Estermyer
PhotoGraphics
6235 S. Mohawk Avenue
Ypsilanti, MI 48197
734.483.5187
734.417.9456 cell
javelinman74@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:13:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 196 ohv performance camshaft
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610111713.k9BHD9o02610@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: "M Walter" <redamc1963@xxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" A (dare
" I say it) turbo, sounds cool but I dont know what that does to the vaccuum
" advance or other vaccuum issues.
if you have a delco distributor you can get a vac can that handles
pressure retard, from gm turbo setups.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:31:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Six or Eight speed manual trans, anyone?
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200610111731.k9BHVgU02710@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" I was looking through the Advance Adapters catalog and noticed something
" that might be interesting -- the "Ranger Torque Splitter". It's 7.5"
" long and fits between the bell and trans (Ford style trans, which should
" be the same as AMC). It has a 27% OD and is fully synchronized, allowing
" splitting all gears. The gear spread in most trannys wouldn't make it
" worthwhile to split all gears I'm sure, but it could be done.
" []
" Four speeds would be a problem, the four speed shifter
" would be moved 7.5" further back, between bucket seats.
bigger problem is that few 4sp have gears wide enough to split well
with a 27% o/d. the wide ratio t170 series - t177? - with the 3.82
1st would barely do it. overdrive toploaders would do well in 1st and
2nd, but the built in o/d is only 30% or 33% so splitting 3rd is out.
now a ford pattern t18 or t19...
" It would be interesting, but costs about the
" same as a Gear Vendors OD unit ($1504.20 plus shipping).
yow... i think you could get a tremec 5sp for that much, certainly a
used one! and the warner aftermkt hd t5 [ford svt 'z-code'] is only
$1100.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:00:53 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1966 DPL
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Anthony <f1boats@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <28281182.1160596853186.JavaMail.root@web18>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Where's it at???????????????
What engine?
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Anthony <f1boats@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have a 1966 Ambassador DPL parting out for free, or come get car f1boats@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:16:25 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 287/327 Piston Heights
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Found this on WPS.com and a parts place.
piston pin .9310
bore 4"
Height 4 bbl .938
Stock 2bbl .890 doing this conversion by math
replacement 2 bbl .874
The .874 compression heigth piston seems to be the only game in town and runs $340-400 plus per set.
Now can an alternative be found?
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Someone on the List here wrote:
>
> Lots of room in the trunk on one of these for a big LPG tank! 4 barrel 327
>
> runs about 9.7:1 in compression the Jeep engine you have is two barrel
>
> and drops down around 9:1, maybe 8,7:1. I think the two barrel just uses
>
> a shorter piston height. I've never found the piston heights to know
>
> for sure.
>
> ---------> According to the "American Motors Performance Engine Book"
>
> edited by Dick Datson of Total Performance Independents,
>
> "It should be assumed that pistons for 327 V8's (8.7 and 9.7 to 1)can be
>
> interchanged in complete sets as the only apparent difference is 3/64"
>
> less height on 8.7 to 1 pistons". The chart shown lists the height of 4
>
> barrel pistons at 1-15/16, and the height of 2 barrel pistons at 1-57/64. It
>
> should be noted that this is actually 2/64 or 1/32 difference in height,
>
> not 3/64 as stated above.
>
> I only just got the book and was looking through it when I saw your
>
> note. I have no idea at this point in time whether or not this book is
>
> worth the paper it's printed on. Take it with a grain of salt.
>
> mike
>
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:29:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Six or Eight speed manual trans, anyone?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Mark Price wrote:
> That price is a good $1000 less then a Gear Vendors by the time you figure gv's controller into the equation.
Here's a webpage with good photo:
http://www.high-impact.net/transmission_and_gear/rangeroverdrive.htm
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Ranger OD, used
To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610111344110.6146@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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http://www.chooseyouritem.com/parts/files/TransmissionandDrivetrain0.html
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