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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: what every AMCer needs in their collection (Todd Tomason)
   2. Headliners (Don Johnson)
   3. Re: what every AMCer needs in their collection (Eddie Stakes)
   4. Re: getting a 87 Eagle wagon (Eddie Stakes)
   5. Fw: convertible kick panels wanted (clarified) (Eddie Stakes)
   6. Morgantown hazards (Michael Bailey)
   7. License plate light (jackbarncord@xxxxxxx)
   8. Old Rambler Dealer (Wayne E LaMothe)
   9. Re: HEI & TFI distributor questions (Sandwich Maker)
  10. Re: all projects on hold (dan whitehead)
  11. Re: TFI Etc. Questions (JOE FULTON)
  12. Re: TFI Etc. Questions (Sandwich Maker)
  13. Re: HEI & TFI distributor questions (Matt Haas)
  14. rare amc (Eddie Stakes)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:20:51 -0500
From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] what every AMCer needs in their collection
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607200720.51864.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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When I clicked on your link it said the ad had been removed.  I wonder why?

Todd

On Thursday 20 July 2006 00:55, Jamie Smith wrote:
> Click on link to see complete ad and
> pictures.http://spokane.craigslist.org/car/184026609.html<http://spokane.cr
>aigslist.org/car/184026609.html> 1979 AMC Jeep Ice Cream Truck. Ready To Go
> For The Season! Freezer attached to invertor and front box cooler
> dramatically lessens dry ice consumption. Speaker and Music System.
> Beautiful Paint Job is Bright and Attractive to children. Runs Great!! Be
> Your Own Boss. Fun Summer Business. 253.631.3019 OR 206.335.3124
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:17:54 -0400
From: Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Headliners
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000a01c6abfe$e904da10$6400a8c0@DONS>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I am at the point in my restoration where I need to start planning my attack on my headliner. I have a 70 AMX that the usual headliner blues have occured. The fabric has separated from the moulded part. The fabric is in very nice condition and I would love to put it back in. Has anyone on the list done this successfully?
How is the moulded part held in place? Will spray contact cement hold the fabric in place when the roof hits those high temperatures of Summer?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Don



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:38:32 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] what every AMCer needs in their collection
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Todd mused:

When I clicked on your link it said the ad had been removed.  I wonder why?
Todd

Record heat up there and probably full of tastee frozen pops would be my 
first guess ;~P)>

Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:38:59 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] getting a 87 Eagle wagon
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <008d01c6ac0d$810c3110$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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Neal, you will enjoy the Eagle wagon. I would however have the exhaust 
system redone by Mieneke or some other muffler shop. One of my Eagles ad a 
leaky exhausts, and with what passes for gas here in Houston, the fumes when 
stuck in traffic or just stopped at light would make you vomit. I actually 
quit driving it until I had a day off to take it to Mida's off Gessner, 
something like $189 for almost front to back inclucing cat converter. I 
think cat converters are the most worthless pieces of s*** ever put on a 
vehicle, but it required one, so put one back.

Can't help you on the brakes, as I don't do my own brakes!

On the carb, Paige's 88 Eagle neede a new carb and it is over counter at 
O'Reillys, it is a Tomco unit, rebuilt, and about $225 with core exchange. 
But what a difference. Her carb kept getting plugged up with this yellowish 
residue. If you look down the carb neck with flashlight, there are two small 
jets sticking out like a V. You might want to get a can of carb cleaner, 
with long red nozzle, and stick it in the pinhole openings on both, blowing 
them out. Those are idles, and they do get clogged and will cause a Eagle or 
Jeep, to stall, sometimes die, at stops, and just run crappy. Again, some of 
this has to do with the crappy 'designer gas' different areas of the country 
use. There is/was a website showing how to do this, I believe Jim (carnuck) 
sent to me a good whiles back. Just something with my limited knowlege of 
Eagles thought would toss in!

My Three Eagles (whihc sounds like a 60s show) get roughly following gas 
mileage:
81 Eagle 151/4cylinder/4speed/floor 23-25mpg
82 Eagle 258/AT/floor 15-17mpg
88 Eagle 258/AT/floor 15-18mpg
I do not know why the 88 gets a little bit better gas milage except possibly 
more 'highway' miles than stop and go. Have fun with your Eagle, check this 
place too:
 http://forums.amceaglenest.com/
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:56:07 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: convertible kick panels wanted (clarified)
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Steve <stevo1264@xxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <009101c6ac0d$82f00c40$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

On the ad I forwarded yesterday for Stave, the kick panels hs is looking for 
are for 67/68 Ambassador "convertible" and 68 Rebel "convertible" whihc are 
unique to those Series, anyone that can help or point him in right direction 
give him a shout below, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Fales" <stevo1264@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: convertible kick panels wanted


> Sorry Eddie,
>
> These would be for my 67 Rebel convertible and are
> found on 67/68 Rebel CV's and 67 Ambo CV's.
>
> Thanks again..!
>
> Steve Fales
>
> --- Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Looking for a set of convertible kick panels that
>> reside under dash for
>> fresh air intake. These are unique because of the
>> wider bottoms to cover the
>> larger rocker panels on the convertibles.  Steve
>> Fales  stevo1264@xxxxxxxxx
>> 703-927-7991
>> ====================================
>> Anyone that can point Steve in right direction give
>> him a shout above,
>> thanks, you might want to email him directly to find
>> out what model and
>> year!
>> Eddie Stakes'
>> Planet Houston AMX
>> 713.464.8825
>> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Morgantown hazards
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060720152430.36589.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

  I thought that I was a dedicated mountain biker just
because I go out in the desert and along the Gila
River with the mountain lions.  We also have a big
problem with wild and abandoned dogs.  Take it easy
and give thanks, Mark.  I've seen a lot worse, believe
it or not.
mike



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:42:20 +0000
From: jackbarncord@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] License plate light
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC List)
Message-ID:
	<072020061542.9498.44BFA45B000CCFE10000251A21603762230B9D010C029D0E0D050C0E06@xxxxxxx>
	
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I found the part #3198678 for the license plate light.  Is it too much to expect these to available?  I can certainly mount another style of license plate light in the bumper, but the original seems so well thought out.  A nice clean way to do things.

Anyone going to take a shot at explaining the adjustment process for the cold, high idle on my 232 1 bbl, YF carb?

Jack

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:30:48 -0400
From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Old Rambler Dealer
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060720.133223.428.0.superglider@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


While visiting a work site today I was talking to the owner of the
property about an old garage that was on the property.  He said the guy
across the street rented it from him and had an old car in it.  Being
curious I looked in the window and say the trademark AMC door handle and
what looked like a Hornet front end.  When time permitted I walked across
the street and talked to Roger.  He said the car was a 73 Gremlin and was
minus the engine.  He had bought a 71 Gremlin new and then had run across
this a few years ago so he stuffed it in the garage.  He owns and runs a
repair shop and then he showed me the sign on the back wall.  The place
was originally a Hudson dealership that his grandfather owned.  In the
basement of the garage he had a 61 American that an old lady left there
25 years ago.  She used to take the bus out of NYC to Pottersville in the
Adirondacks and this guys grandfather stored the car for her.  The bus
stop was across the street and she would get the car and then drive to
her camp.  He said she sold the camp and stopped paying storage on the
car and it still sits there.

Roger then informed me that the building down the street (the only street
in the Hamlet of Pottersville) was the Rambler dealership.  Come to find
out, the guy I was talking to about the project site has the original
Rambler dealer sign in his barn.  I go back across the street and ask the
owner about it and he says it is still in his barn and he has no use for
it.  Trying not to drool I ask him if wants to part with it and he said
he had "half promised" it to the son of the original Rambler dealer. 
Turns out that was six years ago.  I think I might be getting a 3ft by
12ft lit Rambler sign!!!

Roger then comes across the street and asks me if I want an old Waggy. 
Thinking it might have the 327 in it I inquire about the engine and it
turns out to be the OHC Tornado six banger.  If anyone wants the engine,
let me know cause the Town is after him to clean things up and the Waggy
is to be crushed.  

I think it paid to go to work today.  I have visions of that Rambler sign
inside my toy garage.

Wayne
Wayne & Lisa (Skeezix), Bolton Landing, NY,
http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/
AMO#8454, 83 Eagle Limited Wagon, 82 SX/4, 258 auto
69 Ambo coupe, 401, M12, 66 Ambo 990 Wagon, 327,PW,PB,PS,posi,AM/FM,AC
88 Jeep J10 360, auto- a Real truck
2001 Cherokee, 2000 Chrysler Cirrus (both hers)


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:43:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] HEI & TFI distributor questions
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx, motorcycle5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607201743.k6KHhEc12124@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: "garett anderson" <motorcycle5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Help: Does anyone know about the HEI or TFI distributor upgrades on an old 
" 232 motor. Mine is a 1966 ambassador wagon with a 232 and I would like to 
" upgrade my distributor but eveyone that has them for sale on ebay says they 
" fit years 70-80 something-a-rather and usually they call them Jeep 
" distributors. Any input would be appreciated.  garett anderson 
" motorcycle5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
" =========================================

i have a hei on my '68 199.  silly me, i picked it because it needs
12v direct and all my previous amcs - older - had no ballast
resistance.  turns out '68 is the first year they put ballasts on
their six ign!  so i had to bypass it - but that's another story.

you want the dist out of a gm car or light truck with the chevy
straight six, 250 or 292.  i've been told the first year or two ['75]
of hei should be avoided, and you need one that's pre electronic
advance ['80?], but it drops right in -if- you swap your old delco
points dist gear onto it.  amc and chevy cams turn opposite ways, so
the drive gears have opposite helices.

use chevy plug wires and regap your plugs to ~0.050".

i'm also told that oddly most chevy inline heis do not have the
familiar coil in cap, but mine does.  it may be just a parts swap.

you may also want to recurve it to best match your engine.  kits for
this are cheap and plentiful at all the usual speed vendors.

the tfi isn't a bad setup either but it does need ballast resistance,
and its primary attraction is to '78-'90 232/258 that already have the
base ford dist, thus 'tfi tuneup'.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:15:09 +0000
From: "dan whitehead" <freebird_58@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] all projects on hold
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY111-F127404C856622CB0DBE03C94610@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Hey Mark,

that kind of luck nobody needs.  Hope you heal up quick, good luck.

Dan Whitehead




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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:32:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] TFI Etc. Questions
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060720183246.17229.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Andrew said:

you want the dist out of a gm car or light truck with
the chevy
straight six, 250 or 292.  i've been told the first
year or two ['75]
of hei should be avoided,

I had a 75 Chevy Nova with the first year HEI
distributor.  The problem with the 75-only distributor
I have been told is that the bushings for the advance
weights were subject to wear, thus affecting the
distibutor performance.  GM corrected it by the 76
model year.  I had to purchase a rebuilt distibutor
for my car.

Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
 


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:08:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] TFI Etc. Questions
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607201908.k6KJ8XH13456@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Andrew said:
" 
" you want the dist out of a gm car or light truck with
" the chevy
" straight six, 250 or 292.  i've been told the first
" year or two ['75]
" of hei should be avoided,
" 
" I had a 75 Chevy Nova with the first year HEI
" distributor.  The problem with the 75-only distributor
" I have been told is that the bushings for the advance
" weights were subject to wear, thus affecting the
" distibutor performance.  GM corrected it by the 76
" model year.  I had to purchase a rebuilt distibutor
" for my car.

so that's something likely to have already aged out of even the
junkyard fleet by now?  any old '75s are probably carrying rebuilts?
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:01:18 -0400
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] HEI & TFI distributor questions
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
	motorcycle5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20060720220004.02904f58@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Another option is a Pertronix Ignitor. I've been running one of those for 
about 6 years in my 68 American (rest of the ignition is stock) and it 
works great.

Matt

At 01:43 PM 7/20/2006 -0400, Sandwich Maker wrote:
>" From: "garett anderson" <motorcycle5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>"
>" Help: Does anyone know about the HEI or TFI distributor upgrades on an old
>" 232 motor. Mine is a 1966 ambassador wagon with a 232 and I would like to
>" upgrade my distributor but eveyone that has them for sale on ebay says they
>" fit years 70-80 something-a-rather and usually they call them Jeep
>" distributors. Any input would be appreciated.  garett anderson
>" motorcycle5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>" =========================================
>
>i have a hei on my '68 199.  silly me, i picked it because it needs
>12v direct and all my previous amcs - older - had no ballast
>resistance.  turns out '68 is the first year they put ballasts on
>their six ign!  so i had to bypass it - but that's another story.
>
>you want the dist out of a gm car or light truck with the chevy
>straight six, 250 or 292.  i've been told the first year or two ['75]
>of hei should be avoided, and you need one that's pre electronic
>advance ['80?], but it drops right in -if- you swap your old delco
>points dist gear onto it.  amc and chevy cams turn opposite ways, so
>the drive gears have opposite helices.
>
>use chevy plug wires and regap your plugs to ~0.050".
>
>i'm also told that oddly most chevy inline heis do not have the
>familiar coil in cap, but mine does.  it may be just a parts swap.
>
>you may also want to recurve it to best match your engine.  kits for
>this are cheap and plentiful at all the usual speed vendors.
>
>the tfi isn't a bad setup either but it does need ballast resistance,
>and its primary attraction is to '78-'90 232/258 that already have the
>base ford dist, thus 'tfi tuneup'.
>________________________________________________________________________
>Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
>internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
>adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought
>_______________________________________________
>AMC-List mailing list
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>
>or go to http://www.amc-list.com

mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:43:43 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] rare amc
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <042701c6ac80$b2c31ac0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Rare AMC here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988-AMC-Eagle-Premiere_W0QQitemZ170009830461QQihZ007QQcategoryZ5357QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
not sure some would classify it as AMC, but it was....
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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