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Today's Topics:

   1. Not getting list etc... (Michael Bailey)
   2. 360/727 from jeep to javelin questions (Eddie Stakes)
   3. 67 Ambassador convertible for sale (Eddie Stakes)
   4. 63 American for sale (Eddie Stakes)
   5. 87 Eagle for sale (Eddie Stakes)
   6. Re: 360/727 from jeep to javelin questions (Sandwich Maker)
   7. Re: 401 crank wanted & IH question (Ken Ames)
   8. Fw: 68-69 290 amx headers made by Hooker (Eddie Stakes)
   9. original Javelin ad with Richard Dreyfuss (Eddie Stakes)
  10. Re: trannie interchange question (Mark Price)
  11. Test (Jock J Jocewicz)
  12. A Great AMC Day (Archimedes)
  13. AMC TOYS FOR SALE OR TRADE: Johnny Lightning Gremlin (Archimedes)
  14. My 72 Javelin tail lights F/S on E-Bay (Archimedes)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:12:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Not getting list etc...
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060722161202.87861.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

  Jerry, I noticed that you are with Yahoo also.  What
happens is every now and again they put the AMC-List
stuff into your "bulk" folder.  If you have a look
you've probably got like 20 sitting there.  My lists
stopped coming at about the same time.  When the list
went to the new server this same thing happened, and I
can't figure out how to tell Yahoo that they are not
spam.  So just email 'em and give 'em hell I guess.
mike



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 11:28:27 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 360/727 from jeep to javelin questions
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: harry bublitz <nash126@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <007801c6adac$1f8703c0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Info needed, I'm looking for somebody that knows AMC automobiles inside and 
out. I have a 68 javelin sst project going on i recently bought a 1980 AMC 
j10 jeep 4x4 with a 360-V8 with headers and a 727 automatic transmission. my 
question is since this is a 4x4 with a transfer case what am i going to have 
to do to make this tranny work in my 68 javelin? Unfortunately the headers 
won't work unless i pound the tubing some on the passenger side and I'm not 
willing to do that. So if any body needs these 0-miles on them let me know 
thanks. And Ed thanks for the use on your great AMC site. Harold 
nash126@xxxxxxxxxxx
============================
anyone that can help Harold out with the interchange questions, please feel 
free to reply here but also copy your reply to him, he would sincerely 
appreciate it, thanks in advance to all who who reply.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 11:26:21 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 67 Ambassador convertible for sale
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: dtmohrlang@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <007701c6adac$1f311b90$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Selling 1967 Ambassador convertable white with black top and black interior, 
fair to good condition body straight, though it can use some minor 
mechanical work, it's very sound. $4,500 email me for pictures! Terri 
Mohrlang  dtmohrlang@xxxxxxxxxxx
===========================
anyone interested in the Ambassador ragtop give Terri a shout above thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 11:30:16 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 63 American for sale
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Rambler63@xxxxxxx>
Cc: dcjax@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <007a01c6adac$201f9a40$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

for sale....1963 4 door 220 american .......32,000 actual miles ...super 
nice car everything brought back to tip top shape no dents no rust very nice 
for sure,,,,,won't find a car in better shape motor runs excelent...this was 
my grandfathers car he bought new it sat in building from 1971 to 
1999.....black in color with charcoal interior....got about 12 pic can 
supply if interested.......got way more in car than can get out of it but 
will sell for 4,500 dollars.....like i said will not find one in better 
shape......i live in southeast missouri about 180 miles south of st louis & 
95 miles miles north of memphis......might take some kind of trade if get 
rid of good if not no big deal got nice dry place to keep it & don't need 
the money would like for someone to drive it as a daily driver now it just 
sits should livence it & drive it i guess but getting to old 
myself.......Dennis Jackson dcjax@xxxxxxxxx 1-573-792-3335
=============================
anyone interested in the Rambler for sale give them a shout above, thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 11:29:16 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 87 Eagle for sale
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Doug Shepard"
	<dshepard@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: hollandsj@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <007901c6adac$1fcc2310$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

1987 AMC Eagle Limited 4X4 on the fly 87,500 original mi. Color: White, tan 
trim (ex); tan (int) - Power locks/windows - AC - New Tires - Pioneer CD 
Player - Pioneer speakers - Brakes recently done - Recent Alignment - New 
trans. fluid - New vaccum hoses - New ignition module - K&N Air filter Very 
well maintained; exterior paint in exceptional cond; interior very clean. 
Asking $3300 OBO Located in Santa Clarita, CA (Los Angeles County); will 
deliver as far north as Sacramento. Please email/call for photos and 
questions! Sean Holland Sean Holland  hollandsj@xxxxxxxxxxx
===============================
anyone interested in the Eagle above give them a shout thanks,
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:13:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 360/727 from jeep to javelin questions
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx, nash126@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200607221713.k6MHD6C23739@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: "Harold" <nash126@xxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Info needed, I'm looking for somebody that knows AMC automobiles inside and 
" out. I have a 68 javelin sst project going on i recently bought a 1980 AMC 
" j10 jeep 4x4 with a 360-V8 with headers and a 727 automatic transmission. my 
" question is since this is a 4x4 with a transfer case what am i going to have 
" to do to make this tranny work in my 68 javelin? Unfortunately the headers 
" won't work unless i pound the tubing some on the passenger side and I'm not 
" willing to do that. So if any body needs these 0-miles on them let me know 
" thanks. And Ed thanks for the use on your great AMC site. Harold 

someone who knows mopars would do as well since the 727 is a mopar
tranny, but afaik what you need are the tailshaft and extension bits
from a 2wd 727.  i don't think it matters whether it's a mopar or amc
donor on that end.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:16:08 -0600
From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 401 crank wanted & IH question
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1153613768.44c2bfc889bec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

We did this before...  :)

There was a 401 Red Diamond 6 in the 40s early 50s, and a 401 V-8in the 50s/60s.

Ken

Quoting Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> A: The IH 401 is a Red Diamond 6 (I worked on one in an old bus)
> 
> 
> From: msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 401 crank wanted & IH question
> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> 
>
<071720060425.20773.44BB112D000597F8000051252200761394019D0A0790019D9F9C03@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> 
> AMC 304's were not used in IH vehicles.  The 304 was an IH
> motor.  If you find a red 304, I would assume it was just an
> emissions model that Frank referred to and the red paint is just
> a coincidence with respect to IH.  IH also didn't make a "400"
> or a "401" of their own according to BinderBulletin.org.  The
> largest IH-made V8 displaced 392ci and they call it "the 392".
> However, I agree that they referred to the AMC 401 as a "400".
> 
> See below for some search results from BB.  You'll have to
> scroll through some of it due to some random search hits.
> 
>
http://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=AMC+232+258+304+401&match=any&titlesonly=0
> 
> Try different search combinations including the keyword "AMC".
> It coughs up some bits of info regarding special tools to
> service AMC drivetrains and transmissions in the IH world.
> 
> 
> 
> -Spro
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! 
> http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
> 
> 




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:09:33 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: 68-69 290 amx headers made by Hooker
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <015401c6adf2$038cae40$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I'm forwarding this here to let people know Tony was able to find some Hooker headers for a 290, which I guess would work on all 66 1/2 thru 69 AMCs with 290, 343, and 390. Below is the info and part number should someone want to archive it for later. 
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tony Kost 
To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: 68-69 290 amx headers


Ta-Da..... Just so you know the wonderful folks at Hooker make a rectangle port set of headers with collectors for the 290 in my amx. Painted $175.00 or ceramic coated $375.00 part number HOK 7901-1HKR and HOK 7901-HKR. Got this price at Summit. The extensions are extra this comes with bolts and gasket. Will order them when the garage gets C.O.'d

 

Thanks for the time on the phone. 


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:15:37 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] original Javelin ad with Richard Dreyfuss
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <015601c6adf2$041ba7d0$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Thanks to Randy Tate for sharing this, Bart also mentioned a Gremlin ad which is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l710iN_59Ts&search=gremlin

and here is the Javelin ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7BIR4IhNnY&search=amc%20javelin
my guess is eventually there will be dozens of original AMC ads in there which is great!
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 21:19:14 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] trannie interchange question
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <33533371.1153628354110.JavaMail.root@web27>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

You are right the AMC T series trans uses the 10 spline by 1 1/8" input.
I was not thinking quite straight when I said 1 1/16" 
The T bird trans is different from the AMC. 
The closest match in shifter placement is the Chevette T5. The Chevette is shorter in the taihousing however.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> " From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> " 
> " my thinking is a little fuzzy, but IRRC, the AMC T5 is eactly the same trans for the 4 cyl and six applications! Same in all dimensions and gear ratios! It is only the bell to engine bolt pattern that differs.
> 
> that sounds right to me.  also used in jeeps [incl. some xj] to '86.
> 
> "   Keep in mind this trans was spec'd to AMC by AMC before the other manufacturers realized it's potential.
> " Highlights of the AMC trans,
> " unique shifter placement
> " uses Chryco 904 output
> " uses Chryco speedo adapter and gears
> " uses S-10 T5 shifter pattern
> " uses Ford trans to bell pattern
> " uses GM trans input bearing retainer diameter
> " 4-1 first gear ratio
> 
> like this?
>  1352-114  85-86   T-Bird   2.3 T   235ft-lbs   4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.81 3.76 6t speedo      7.41   0.59
> 
> " .8 overdrive, IIRC?
> 
> might be 0.85 or 0.78.  trying to recall if 4s and 6s got different
> like at gm.
> 
> " rated at 245 ftlbs torque.
> " input shaft is 1 X 1 1/16" 10 spline
> 
> wow.  i always thought it was gm 1 1/8 x 10 even though i knew it was
> ford -length-.
> 
> " .509  pilot tip or is it .590"? GM anywany. Ford is .460"
> 
> .590".  you must be thinking of toyota because ford is 0.670", except
> 4-cyl sr4/t4/t5 apps which are...  0.590"!  they're also [t5s anyway]
> a touch longer, 7.41" vs. 7.18" and have gm retainer dia iirc.  afaik
> only v8 and v6 t5s have 'traditional' ford dimensions on the retainer
> and input shaft.
> 
> all vy gd info!  going into my permanent file.
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
> internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
> adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 23:48:19 -0500
From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Test
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060722.234819.-16538615.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

This is just a test.

Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA     NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
          JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974,  NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:23:06 -0400
From: Archimedes <Freedom@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] A Great AMC Day
To: (Recipient list suppressed)
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20060721161613.01f14ee8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed


Yesterday, doing the guy thing of channel surfing, I happened to flip to a 
rebroadcast of a 1975 NASCAR race race at Darlington.  I had to watch for a 
while with the nagging suspicion that there would be some AMC content in 
there somewhere...  And boy, did I get it.  After a few laps where I forgot 
to breathe while trying to find that Matador, I finally saw it.  It was 
down in 4th or 5th or something at the time.

The two front runners were a lap ahead of Bobby Allison's Matador (which 
was in third place at a lap down!!), and crashed just short of the finish 
-- after which Bobby held on for the lead.

There was no question in my mind that the Matador was less powerful than 
the others; 'cause Bobby was nervously doing everything he could to keep 
one or two other drivers from getting a line to pass him.  Had it been for 
more laps, there was no way the Mat could have held them off.

Nevertheless, I haven't seen an AMC on the road (other than mine) for a 
long time, so this was almost as good.

Whew.

-- Marc



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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:07:14 -0400
From: Archimedes <Freedom@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC TOYS FOR SALE OR TRADE: Johnny Lightning
	Gremlin
To: (Recipient list suppressed)
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20060722090541.01e3bb40@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed


I have for trade:

3 JL 72 Gremlin X - silver metallic.
http://www.playingmantis.com/pics/articleimages/50152AD.jpg

4 Fresh Cherries 72 Gremlin X - blue metallic.

The packages are perfect.

I seem to recall hearing there were some other JL AMC issues within the 
past couple of years.  If you have extras, please drop me a line and lets 
do some even-steven trading.

-- Marc Montoni <Rambler@xxxxxxxxx> 



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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:28:34 -0400
From: Archimedes <Freedom@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] My 72 Javelin tail lights F/S on E-Bay
To: (Recipient list suppressed)
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20060722152608.01c27058@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed


I have a pair of '72 Javelin tail lights I'm selling on E-Bay:

	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&item=130009165582

Come and get 'em!

-- Marc Montoni <Rambler@xxxxxxxxx> 



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