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Today's Topics:
1. Re: my 62 classic project (Mark Price)
2. Re: my 62 classic project-T-5 (Mark Price)
3. Engine specs, let's try this again with smaller colums this
time (Dan Curtis)
4. THIRD TIME IS ALWAYS A CHARM - even smaller colums this time
(Dan Curtis)
5. Re: my 62 classic project (Tom Jennings)
6. Valve adjustment, Life adjustment (Mike Kindle)
7. Still Need Those Clips (JOE FULTON)
8. Re: THIRD TIME IS ALWAYS A CHARM - even smaller colums this
time (John Elle)
9. 73 AMX fresh plum (Nick ALFANO)
10. Re: my 62 classic project (Jim Blair)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 12:05:56 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Cc: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
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Aren't the plates in place for belts on the these cars? You can buy the reinforcement plates from any aftermarket belt place. I suggest using them as they are easy to use and give that extra bit of strength even with the heavy floors in th eearly cars.
I forget what engine you are going with, but the amc-15 will hold up well to normal use and the occasional brunout. My EFI 4.0L T-5 and 255/60/15"s haven't broken mine [yet]!
T-5 shifter location, if staying with a bench, get a S-10 tailshaft housing and top cover with rods. It wil clear the bench easy and you can goosneck bend the shifter to clear the dash
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> i am NOT going with a ford 8.8. i been told the 8.8 disk brake kit will fit the amc 20 bolt pattern on the output flange of the axle tube. if not, i will be able to fabricate it to fit. you say the m15 will work, i will leave it in for now, get rid of the torque tube, and have me a m20 standing by for when the 15 goes.
>
> i was thinking i might have to go with some bending on shifter again with a t-5. my steering shifter took a crap on me a few years ago, so i got a hurst truck 3 speed floor shift kit and put it in, mounted on the left side of the trans tunnel. had to take a torch to it and give it a few degrees bend back a little to clear the dash. the shift pattern is bass ackwards, but kinda cool that way. when in 3rd, it wouldnt go in if the seat had to be slid forward much more than where im comfortable. works well tho for now.
>
> another issue i forgot to mension. seatbelts. the car never had any in it. is the floor pan strong enough in these cars to run bolt thru with about a 2-3" washer on the bottom side to keep from pulling thru to easy? doesnt bother me much ridin without them, but the wife, she is paranoid about it ya know? im content to go with just some lap belts with chrome latches.
>
> dave stohler
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 12:17:48 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project-T-5
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Cc: John Elle <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
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IIRC a 4.0L EFI in stock form puts out 245 ftlb torque.
Mines had the head ported slightly and runs a 3:31 axle with 255/60/15" tires and a 4-1 first gear T-5. I've not broken it yet. If he's not racing I would expect it to hold up fine if he retorques the hubs.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- John Elle <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dave
> Snip
> Get the bell housing from any 79 or later six cylinder manual shift car.
> That
> has the bolt pattern for the T-5 and will bolt to the 304.
> Snip
> Actually from a 1977 or later 304 V8 or I-6 manual shift car that uses
> the SR-4 T-4 or T-5 transmission. NOT 4 CYLINDER VERSIONS!
> Make sure you are getting the throw out arm and bearing with the bell
> housing! 3 speed manual transmission bell housing will not work.
> SNIP
> If you're using a 304 you can use the AMC 15 axle.
> Snip
> This is probably a safe assumption except;
> AMC used the Dana 20 with all V-8's.
> I believe the 304 develops more torque than any of the I-6's do and that
> is what you have to worry about.
> The Dana 15 uses a $100.00 brake drum while the Dana 20 uses a $25.00
> brake drum.
> You can find a nice 3.07:1 final drive in a Dana 15 which works well
> with a 5 speed.
> Whereas a Dana 20 the first choice is a 3.15:1 which is o.k., but second
> choice is somewhere in the high 2's.
> The point is moot anyway as you have decided to use a Ford 8.8
>
> Good Luck
> John
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 12:49:04 -0700
From: "Dan Curtis" <d.curtis@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Engine specs, let's try this again with smaller
colums this time
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March 3, 2006 4:38 PM 85% efficiency 29.92 Barometric Pressure @ 70F
Fuel .699 Time 12.6 Holley 950 3 barrel, vacuum secondaries 4100 - 6700
RPM advanced ignition timing to 38 BTDC Headman Headers
RPM C TQ O TQ C PWR O PWR BSFC C.F. ADENS FUEL
BAND FT-LBS FT-LBS CHP BHP #/HrHp STD 100% F #/HR
4100 425.6 416.6 332.3 325.5 0.457 1.0188 94.80
148.6
4600 447.7 438.3 392.1 383.8 0.46- 1.0187 94.80
175.5
5100 443.4 434.0 441.1 413.2 0.48- 1.0188 94.80
197.2
5600 423.4 414.5 451.5 442.0 0.48- 1.0186 94.80
213.5
6100 395.2 386.9 459.0 449.4 0.49- 1.0186 94.80
222.2
6500 367.3 359.6 454.5 445.4 0.54- 1.0186 94.80
240.8
AVRG 418.29 409.48 439.32 430.07 0.489 1.0187 94.80 210.71
RPM CFM AIR FLOW A/F Fuel Pr F PWR OIL PR OIL T WAT T
BAND CFM #/HR RATIO PSI FHP PSI DEG T DEG T
4101 453.8 1971.7 13.3 8.3 48.8 53.2 167.2
117.2
4600 534.7 2323.0 13.2 8.2 57.6 53.5 167.0
117.2
5100 573.2 2490.6 12.5 8.3 62.5 53.9 166.6
118.9
5600 643.3 2795.1 13.1 8.2 66.3 52.5 166.7
119.7
6200 713.8 3101.3 13.4 8.1 67.4 52.2 167.6
121.0
6600 708.2 3039,9 12.6 8.2 66.8 52.9 167.6
121.7
AVRG 635.96 2763.0 13.12 8.22 64.51 52.88 167.01 119.4
backup pull after idling for 5 minutes at 950 RPM
March 3, 2006 5:12 PM 85% efficiency 29.92 Barometric Pressure @ 70F
Fuel .699 Time 12.6 Holley 750/850 4 bl, mechanical secondaries 3000 -
6600 RPM ignition timing 38 BTDC Headman Headers
RPM C TQ O TQ C PWR O PWR BSFC C.F. ADENS FUEL
BAND FT-LBS FT-LBS CHP BHP #/HrHp STD 100% F #/HR
4100 432.7 424.3 337.8 331.2 0.44- 1.0172 95.10
137.5
4600 443.8 435.3 388.7 381.2 0.44- 1.0171 95.10
167.9
5100 439.4 431.0 426.7 418.5 0.45- 1.0172 95.10
190.1
5600 420.3 412.5 448.5 439.0 0.47- 1.0172 95.10
205.1
6100 392.7 385.1 456.1 447.3 0.50- 1.0171 95.10
223.1
6500 363.3 352.8 452.8 443.4 0.54- 1.0172 94.80
232.4
AVRG 416.29 408.26 437.05 428.61 0.535 1.0171 95.10 203.48
RPM CFM AIR FLOW A/F Fuel Pr F PWR OIL PR OIL T WAT T
BAND CFM #/HR RATIO PSI FHP PSI DEG T DEG T
4100 439.8 1916.7 13.6 7.2 47.4 52.2 165.3
121.0
4600 515.6 2247.2 13.4 7.2 57.2 52.5 165.8
122.7
5100 582.2 2537.6 13.3 7.2 62.8 53.8 166.6
123.2
5600 634.1 2763.9 13.5 7.1 66.0 54.0 167.3
124.0
6100 686.8 2993.4 13.4 7.1 67.1 53.8 168.4
124.8
6600 695.9 3033.1 13.0 7.1 65.4 54.0 169.8
126.3
AVRG 623.95 2719.4 13.36 7.13 64.29 53.72 167.34 124.0
Below are the parts used and specs of the engine
REID'S AUTOMOTIVE INC PERFORMANCE SPECIALISTS
909 TEMPLE ST WHITMAN MA. 02382
TEL 781 857 2500 FAX 781 857 1203
www.reidsautomotive.com
- Disassemble and check specs
bore: 4.195 Stroke: 3.680 Deck .017
Pistons: 401 28CC dish
Crankshaft Casting 3196921 - 401
Rods: 68/69 390
Assemble for 10.2 compression, requires copper head gasket @.020
- REROUTE OIL FOR REAR BEARING OIL LINE
- REMOVE RINGS & BEARING CLEAN AND SAVE
- DISASSEMBLE HEADS CLEAN AND INSPECT, PORT AND POLISH PREVIOUSLY DONE
- CC HEADS CNE CHAMBER EACH HEAD - HEADS ARE 57.6/57.2 CC
- COMPETITION VALVE JOB INLINE V/8
SET SPRINGS CLOSED 160 LBS @ 1.830 OPEN 367 LBS @ . 1.981
- GRIND VALVES AND SEATS COMPETITION
- BLEND SEATS INT0 THROATS
- SACK CUT VALVES 30 DEGREES
- RESURFACE HEADS UP TO .020 [ACTUAL - .005 EACH ]
- CC HEADS AL_ CHAMBER [54 CC ] WITH NEW VALVES AND SEATS CUT
- R&R PISTON/SET NUMBER 0F PISTONS : 8
- R&R FREEZE PLUGS FROM CYLINDER HEADS
- INSTALL CAM BEARINGS AND FREEZE PLUGS
CHECK LIFTER BORES FOR OIL WITH ROLLER LIFTERS INSTALLED
- DEGREE CAMSHAFT [108.5 LC ]
- TRIAL ASSEMBLE CHECK V/- DECK HEIGHT COMPRESSION RATIO
ACTUAL COMPRESSION RATIO WITH .020 COPPER GASKET - 10.187:1
- MAKE SHIELD FOR PVC AND FIT AIRGAP 2 TO BLOCK AND HEADS
- MACHINE CAM THRUST SPACER AND SET CAM WALK
- OVERHAUL CARB AND INSTALL POWER VALVE PROTECTOR 4779 HOLLEY
- OVERHAUL CARB AND INSTALL POWER VALVE PROTECTOR 0-4604 HOLLEY
6.604-S 3 BL CARB SAVE GASKET TO MATCH
- BRIDGEPORT MILLING MAKE MACHINE MOUNT PLATE FOR DYNO
- SETUP ENGINE FOR DUEL OIL LINE SYSTEM
- INSTALL MILODON 8 QUART PAN WITH SWING ARM PICKUP AND DUAL EXTERNAL OIL
LINE
PARTS:
MAP 11892 INTAKE VALVES - 8
MAP 11859 EXHAUST VALVES - 8
CMP 10-00-9 A8 AMC V-8 ROLLER CAM 4975F/4876F-R110
CMP 848-16 ROLLER LIFTER
CMP 985-16 948-973
CMP 740-16 1.437" RETAINER
CLE SH671S CAM BEARINGS
CMP 616-16 #.050 3/8 SUPER LOCK
VSA C306 SPRING SHIM
VSA B306 SPRING SHIM
ENG S9250 3/8X530 SEAL
F/P KS2001 GASKET SET
F/P MS96011 VALLEY TRAY
MEL K-85 OIL PUMP ADAPTER
MEL 85-S PICK UP SCREEN
ELG PR537 PUSHRODS - 16
MSD 8519 AMC PRO BILLET DISTRIBUTOR
MSD 6AL IGNITION CONTROL BOX WITH ADJUSTABLE REV LIMITER
MSD COIL BLASTER 2
MSD 8006 BRONZE GEAR
MOROSO BLACK 8MM HIGH ENERGY WIRE SET
AMC 291C PORTED AND POLISHED HEADS BOUGHT FROM EBAY
EDL 7531 EDLEBROCK PERFORMER RPM AIRGAP MANIFOLD
CENTER FORCE II STREET AND STRIP CLUTCH, PRESSURE PLATE AND THROW OUT
BEARING
CAM SPECS:
SPECS: GRIND # 4875F/4876F R 110.0
VALUE ADJUSTMENT: INTAKE - .016 EXHAUST - .018
GROSS VALVE LIFT: .577 .583
DURATION @ 0.15 TAPPET LIFT: 285 291
VALVE TIMING @ .050 OPEN 14 BTDC 57 BBDC
CLOSE 54 ABDC 17
ATDC
FOR CAM INSTALLED @ 110.0 INTAKE CENTER LINE
DURATION @ .050 248 254
LOBE LIFT .3850
.3890
LOBE SEPARATION 110.0
Regards,
Dan Curtis
d.curtis@xxxxxxx
602-317-2018
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 12:57:41 -0700
From: "Dan Curtis" <d.curtis@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] THIRD TIME IS ALWAYS A CHARM - even smaller colums
this time
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <001501c67c47$a7217db0$0400a8c0@D14DCP61>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
March 3, 2006 4:38 PM 85% efficiency 29.92 Barometric Pressure @ 70F
Fuel .699 Time 12.6 Holley 950 3 barrel, vacuum secondaries 4100 - 6700
RPM advanced ignition timing to 38 BTDC Headman Headers
RPM C TQ O TQ C PWR O PWR BSFC C.F. ADENS FUEL
BAND FT-LBS FT-LBS CHP BHP #/HrHp STD 100% F #/HR
4100 425.6 416.6 332.3 325.5 0.457 1.0188 94.80 148.6
4600 447.7 438.3 392.1 383.8 0.46- 1.0187 94.80 175.5
5100 443.4 434.0 441.1 413.2 0.48- 1.0188 94.80 197.2
5600 423.4 414.5 451.5 442.0 0.48- 1.0186 94.80 213.5
6100 395.2 386.9 459.0 449.4 0.49- 1.0186 94.80 222.2
6500 367.3 359.6 454.5 445.4 0.54- 1.0186 94.80 240.8
AVRG 418.29 409.48 439.32 430.07 0.489 1.0187 94.80 210.71
RPM CFM AIR FLOW A/F Fuel Pr F PWR OIL PR OIL T WAT T
BAND CFM #/HR RATIO PSI FHP PSI DEG T DEG T
4101 453.8 1971.7 13.3 8.3 48.8 53.2 167.2
117.2
4600 534.7 2323.0 13.2 8.2 57.6 53.5 167.0
117.2
5100 573.2 2490.6 12.5 8.3 62.5 53.9 166.6
118.9
5600 643.3 2795.1 13.1 8.2 66.3 52.5 166.7
119.7
6200 713.8 3101.3 13.4 8.1 67.4 52.2 167.6
121.0
6600 708.2 3039,9 12.6 8.2 66.8 52.9 167.6
121.7
AVRG 635.96 2763.0 13.12 8.22 64.51 52.88 167.01 119.4
backup pull after idling for 5 minutes at 950 RPM
March 3, 2006 5:12 PM 85% efficiency 29.92 Barometric Pressure @ 70F
Fuel .699 Time 12.6 Holley 750/850 4 bl, mechanical secondaries 3000 -
6600 RPM ignition timing 38 BTDC Headman Headers
RPM C TQ O TQ C PWR O PWR BSFC C.F. ADENS FUEL
BAND FT-LBS FT-LBS CHP BHP #/HrHp STD 100% F #/HR
4100 432.7 424.3 337.8 331.2 0.44- 1.0172 95.10
137.5
4600 443.8 435.3 388.7 381.2 0.44- 1.0171 95.10
167.9
5100 439.4 431.0 426.7 418.5 0.45- 1.0172 95.10
190.1
5600 420.3 412.5 448.5 439.0 0.47- 1.0172 95.10
205.1
6100 392.7 385.1 456.1 447.3 0.50- 1.0171 95.10
223.1
6500 363.3 352.8 452.8 443.4 0.54- 1.0172 94.80
232.4
AVRG 416.29 408.26 437.05 428.61 0.535 1.0171 95.10 203.48
RPM CFM AIR FLOW A/F Fuel Pr F PWR OIL PR OIL T WAT T
BAND CFM #/HR RATIO PSI FHP PSI DEG T DEG T
4100 439.8 1916.7 13.6 7.2 47.4 52.2 165.3
121.0
4600 515.6 2247.2 13.4 7.2 57.2 52.5 165.8
122.7
5100 582.2 2537.6 13.3 7.2 62.8 53.8 166.6
123.2
5600 634.1 2763.9 13.5 7.1 66.0 54.0 167.3
124.0
6100 686.8 2993.4 13.4 7.1 67.1 53.8 168.4
124.8
6600 695.9 3033.1 13.0 7.1 65.4 54.0 169.8
126.3
AVRG 623.95 2719.4 13.36 7.13 64.29 53.72 167.34 124.0
Below are the parts used and specs of the engine
REID'S AUTOMOTIVE INC PERFORMANCE SPECIALISTS
909 TEMPLE ST WHITMAN MA. 02382
TEL 781 857 2500 FAX 781 857 1203
www.reidsautomotive.com
- Disassemble and check specs
bore: 4.195 Stroke: 3.680 Deck .017
Pistons: 401 28CC dish
Crankshaft Casting 3196921 - 401
Rods: 68/69 390
Assemble for 10.2 compression, requires copper head gasket @.020
- REROUTE OIL FOR REAR BEARING OIL LINE
- REMOVE RINGS & BEARING CLEAN AND SAVE
- DISASSEMBLE HEADS CLEAN AND INSPECT, PORT AND POLISH PREVIOUSLY DONE
- CC HEADS CNE CHAMBER EACH HEAD - HEADS ARE 57.6/57.2 CC
- COMPETITION VALVE JOB INLINE V/8
SET SPRINGS CLOSED 160 LBS @ 1.830 OPEN 367 LBS @ . 1.981
- GRIND VALVES AND SEATS COMPETITION
- BLEND SEATS INT0 THROATS
- SACK CUT VALVES 30 DEGREES
- RESURFACE HEADS UP TO .020 [ACTUAL - .005 EACH ]
- CC HEADS AL_ CHAMBER [54 CC ] WITH NEW VALVES AND SEATS CUT
- R&R PISTON/SET NUMBER 0F PISTONS : 8
- R&R FREEZE PLUGS FROM CYLINDER HEADS
- INSTALL CAM BEARINGS AND FREEZE PLUGS
CHECK LIFTER BORES FOR OIL WITH ROLLER LIFTERS INSTALLED
- DEGREE CAMSHAFT [108.5 LC ]
- TRIAL ASSEMBLE CHECK V/- DECK HEIGHT COMPRESSION RATIO
ACTUAL COMPRESSION RATIO WITH .020 COPPER GASKET - 10.187:1
- MAKE SHIELD FOR PVC AND FIT AIRGAP 2 TO BLOCK AND HEADS
- MACHINE CAM THRUST SPACER AND SET CAM WALK
- OVERHAUL CARB AND INSTALL POWER VALVE PROTECTOR 4779 HOLLEY
- OVERHAUL CARB AND INSTALL POWER VALVE PROTECTOR 0-4604 HOLLEY
6.604-S 3 BL CARB SAVE GASKET TO MATCH
- BRIDGEPORT MILLING MAKE MACHINE MOUNT PLATE FOR DYNO
- SETUP ENGINE FOR DUEL OIL LINE SYSTEM
- INSTALL MILODON 8 QUART PAN WITH SWING ARM PICKUP AND DUAL EXTERNAL OIL
LINE
PARTS:
MAP 11892 INTAKE VALVES - 8
MAP 11859 EXHAUST VALVES - 8
CMP 10-00-9 A8 AMC V-8 ROLLER CAM 4975F/4876F-R110
CMP 848-16 ROLLER LIFTER
CMP 985-16 948-973
CMP 740-16 1.437" RETAINER
CLE SH671S CAM BEARINGS
CMP 616-16 #.050 3/8 SUPER LOCK
VSA C306 SPRING SHIM
VSA B306 SPRING SHIM
ENG S9250 3/8X530 SEAL
F/P KS2001 GASKET SET
F/P MS96011 VALLEY TRAY
MEL K-85 OIL PUMP ADAPTER
MEL 85-S PICK UP SCREEN
ELG PR537 PUSHRODS - 16
MSD 8519 AMC PRO BILLET DISTRIBUTOR
MSD 6AL IGNITION CONTROL BOX WITH ADJUSTABLE REV LIMITER
MSD COIL BLASTER 2
MSD 8006 BRONZE GEAR
MOROSO BLACK 8MM HIGH ENERGY WIRE SET
AMC 291C PORTED AND POLISHED HEADS BOUGHT FROM EBAY
EDL 7531 EDLEBROCK PERFORMER RPM AIRGAP MANIFOLD
CENTER FORCE II STREET AND STRIP CLUTCH, PRESSURE PLATE AND THROW OUT
BEARING
CAM SPECS:
SPECS: GRIND # 4875F/4876F R 110.0
VALUE ADJUSTMENT: INTAKE - .016 EXHAUST - .018
GROSS VALVE LIFT: .577 .583
DURATION @ 0.15 TAPPET LIFT: 285 291
VALVE TIMING @ .050 OPEN 14 BTDC 57 BBDC
CLOSE 54 ABDC 17 ATDC
FOR CAM INSTALLED @ 110.0 INTAKE CENTER LINE
DURATION @ .050 248 254
LOBE LIFT .3850 .3890
LOBE SEPARATION 110.0
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 15:19:55 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1148163594.7034.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 13:54, Arfon wrote:
> When are the pictures going to be posted?
What I was about to ask!!
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 15:40:20 -0700
From: "Mike Kindle" <mike90066@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Valve adjustment, Life adjustment
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I just wanted to say how huge a difference correctly adjusting the valves on
my Metropolitan made. No more shaking engine at idle, no more stalling at
stops, and top speeds in excess of 70mph! I bet this will improve my
disappointing 31mpg highway too. I was always amazed at how much the engine
shook at idle, but not having been around in 1959, I maybe assumed that's
just the way things were back then. Not true! The valves should be set to
.015", but some had no clearance at all! Preload even. This is all after I
carefully rebuilt the carb and distributor too. The lesson here, if it
feels like there's something wrong, there is. Things should be noticeably
good.
In other news, I got my 30 day notice. The housing market has peaked so the
owners of the place I'm in are selling before the crash so I have to find a
new place. Any Los Angeles area listers with ideas or leads, let me know.
A two car garage with just about any living space attached or nearby is what
I'm seeking, or a small industrial space that could be filled with Ramblers.
Thinking westside.
I've been pondering using this crisis as a excuse to get rid of all my (4)
cars and parts and do something else with my spare time: advance my career?
have more adventures? figure out what other people do who don't have this
particular automotive issue? It's the old question of would you give up all
that you have if it meant getting instead everything you've ever wanted?
Of course there's no guarantee of that. Hmm.
Or do I find a new place with the car hobby as the priority?
Mike Kindle
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:55:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Still Need Those Clips
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060521035509.14789.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Folks,
I'm working on the 64 Classic 660 again and still need
to know the type and size of the clips hold the
shifter arms to the shift column arms (under the
hood). If anyone with a column shift sixties or so
AMC can describe the retaining clips or send me a
picture that would be great.
Frank, sorry, your were probably thinking of the lower
shift arm joints which are held together with cotter
pins and washers. The upper arm connecters are
flanged and are not drilled for cotter pins. I am
using hair pins now, but the shift linkage seems too
tight.
Other news: I still have not experienced the low oil
pressure problem and am keeping my fingers crossed
that it was a transient problem which was solved
somehow. I know about the head bolt modification
allowing increased oil flow to the rocker shaft, but I
thought I would try flushing the engine first and it
seems to have worked. I did use engine flush in the
engine and have completely drained the flushing oil
and have refilled with 10W40 and a new filter. Still
50 pounds at idle with cold oil.
Other news:
I have purchased a 63 Classic 770 wagon in the Nevada
desert and will be picking it up next month. It has
the 196 aluminum block engine and I'm interested in
trying to get it running. At the same location I
purchased a 64 Classic 660 wagon which I will bring
home and part out. If anyone needs 63/64 Rambler
parts let me know.
Regards,
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:15:39 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] THIRD TIME IS ALWAYS A CHARM - even smaller
colums this time
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Dan
SNIP
March 3, 2006 4:38 PM
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Thanks for taking time to share this information. Very Interesting!
John
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:41:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 73 AMX fresh plum
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Bryan,
You are correct, white would have been one of the
color stripes on a Plum car. I have also seen gold,
and even black.
I will dig through my old computer and see if I can
find any customers cars that were plum. I think I
might only have one and that was with a white stripe.
Nick Alfano
Alfano Performance
Kenosha, WI. 53142
262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends
262-308-1302
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:03:43 -0600
From: Teamamc <Teamamc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 73 AMX fresh plum
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What would the correct colour "T" stripe be on a 1973
AMX with fresh
plum colour.
I think it is white but would like to confirm.
Any pictures of a fresh plum AMX with white stripe and
1 with black
stripe.
For comparison
Thanks
Bryan
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:30:12 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project
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A: I have Grand Cherokee rotors and calipers (along with the caliper
brackets) to put on a Model 20 for my Comanche. (still trying to find a
complete one in an MJ here)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] my 62 classic project
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i am NOT going with a ford 8.8. i been told the 8.8 disk brake
kit will fit the amc 20 bolt pattern on the output flange of the
axle tube. if not, i will be able to fabricate it to fit. you
say the m15 will work, i will leave it in for now, get rid of
the torque tube, and have me a m20 standing by for when the 15
goes.
i was thinking i might have to go with some bending on shifter
again with a t-5. my steering shifter took a crap on me a few
years ago, so i got a hurst truck 3 speed floor shift kit and
put it in, mounted on the left side of the trans tunnel. had to
take a torch to it and give it a few degrees bend back a little
to clear the dash. the shift pattern is bass ackwards, but kinda
cool that way. when in 3rd, it wouldnt go in if the seat had to
be slid forward much more than where im comfortable. works well
tho for now.
another issue i forgot to mension. seatbelts. the car never
had any in it. is the floor pan strong enough in these cars to
run bolt thru with about a 2-3" washer on the bottom side to
keep from pulling thru to easy? doesnt bother me much ridin
without them, but the wife, she is paranoid about it ya know? im
content to go with just some lap belts with chrome latches.
dave stohler
camp taji iraq
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