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- Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:03:14 +0000
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Today's Topics:
1. amx disk brake kit for 62 classic (d stohler)
2. amx disk brake kit for 62 classic (d stohler)
3. Re: amx disk brake kit for 62 classic (Sandwich Maker)
4. Re: Baking Paint (Sandwich Maker)
5. Re: Flywheel Ring Gear (Jim Blair)
6. Re: AMX disk brake kit for 62 classic (John Elle)
7. Re: amx disk brake kit for 62 classic (Sandwich Maker)
8. AMX running 8's (cool video) (Eddie Stakes)
9. Re: AMX running 8's (cool video) (Mark Anthony Sproviero)
10. Shipping a Vdub (russ hathaway)
11. Maacos botched job (russ hathaway)
12. vent window gaskets (russ hathaway)
13. window gaskets (russ hathaway)
14. Re: MAACO or equivelent paint jobs. (Tom Jennings)
15. Corrections to-Re: AMX disk brake kit for 62 classic (John Elle)
16. A Peaceful Productive Day Sunday. (Mr. AMC)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 06:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] amx disk brake kit for 62 classic
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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i am looking for anyone with amx disk brakes for parts. i have a 62 classic 2 door i am doing a little bit of rodding out on. im not sure if they are stock on all amx's, but the bendix 4 piston calipers are prefered. found some on ebay, but they had that stupid autobid thing on where it always outbids you? only going with buy it now items listed.... any help would be great. thank you
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 06:05:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] amx disk brake kit for 62 classic
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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also, i forgot to mention, i am having a hard time finding disk brake kit that will go onto amc 20. ford 8.8 looks close to the right bolt pattern. but then again so does the SMALL 9". i am in iraq right now so its impossible for me to take measurements. just going by eye in pics. im planning on running some 17" torque thrust wheels so i need something that will look good peeking thru the wheels. thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this issue for me.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:34:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] amx disk brake kit for 62 classic
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200605141334.k4EDYE721801@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
"
" i am looking for anyone with amx disk brakes for parts. i have a 62
" classic 2 door i am doing a little bit of rodding out on. im not
" sure if they are stock on all amx's, but the bendix 4 piston
" calipers are prefered. found some on ebay, but they had that stupid
" autobid thing on where it always outbids you? only going with buy it
" now items listed.... any help would be great. thank you
why the old bendix stuff? they're expensive, cranky, hard to find
parts for, and don't stop any better than say '82-3 spirit disks.
________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:58:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Baking Paint
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200605141358.k4EDwZZ21888@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: David Crooks <david.crooks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" <snip> places with ovens to bake-cure the paint in. they can't give it a
" really hard bake unless you strip everything nonmetallic off, but even
" what they can do gives you a better, more durable finish. <snip>
"
" This is actually something I've meant to ask a real auto paint
" specialist... Because I don't believe that it's true of modern
" catalyzed and epoxy finishes. These finishes cure by cross
" linking into long molecule chains. If the temperature is too
" high, they cure too fast, resulting in shorter molecule chains
" and are weaker because of this. If the temperature is too low,
" then the reaction doesn't happen at all, and it never cures. In
" any of the industrial epoxies I've used, there is an optimum cure
" temperature range, for strongest results.
i'd like to know this too, but i wouldn't be surprised if baking still
produces a tougher, less brittle finish.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:41:01 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Flywheel Ring Gear
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I'm pretty sure the tooth count is different, but it also depends on the
year.
Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73
J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com
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Subject: [AMC-List] Flywheel Ring Gear
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Does a 4.0 flywheel ring gear fit on a 4.2 flywheel???
ed
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:47:33 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMX disk brake kit for 62 classic
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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SNIP
i am looking for anyone with amx disk brakes for parts. i have a 62
classic 2
door i am doing a little bit of rodding out on. im not sure if they are
stock
on all amx's, but the bendix 4 piston calipers are prefered.
SNIP
The Bendix 4 piston Calipers were used from 1966 to 1971 as an optional
brake on AMC cars. That includes cars such as the Marlin and the AMX and
others. They are considered and obsolete brake and for many years
replacement maintenance parts were unavailable. Many of these parts are
now reproduced and are available over the counter from AMC vendors. One
of many is
http://www.ramblerparts.com/
Galvin's Rambler in California. Major vendors will carry these parts.
Other sources would be;
Kennedy American Inc.
7100 State Route 142 SE
West Jefferson Ohio
43162
Tel: 614 879-2283
And check the following web site;
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/ This web site also has a large vendor
list associated with it.
While these brakes may appear to look like the newest deep pocket brake
conversion that peek through the spokes colored in candy colors from
Eastwood and all of the current rage, they are not what would be called
the preferred brake conversion but finicky, problem prone and expensive.
Any of the AMC disk brakes can be installed on any of the AMC cars by
removing from the donor car all parts back to the steering knuckle and
bolting them on to the car of choice. There are a few pit falls to avoid
depending on your selection of donor brakes but they are very dealable.
They are commonly removed or have been anyway and replaced by later
units for both cost, serviceability and reliability. These items in the
past were commonly throw-a-way parts and in most circles probably still
are.
SNIP
also, i forgot to mention, i am having a hard time finding disk brake
kit that
will go onto amc 20. ford 8.8 looks close to the right bolt pattern. but
then
again so does the SMALL 9"
SNIP
You would have a hard time, almost nothing exists.
SNIP
. i am in iraq right now so its impossible for me to
take measurements.
SNIP
You and all military people come home safe!
SNIP
just going by eye in pics. im planning on running some 17"
torque thrust wheels so i need something that will look good peeking
thru the
wheels. thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this issue for me
SNIP
There were at least two rear disc brake conversion kits that I am aware
of but I do not know if they are still available or the vendor is still
in business. They were very pricey. One gave emergency brakes, the other
did not.
You might want to check with the following people.
http://www.amx-perience.com/california_classic_amc.htm
However one of the better ways to accomplish this task is to use a Ford
9 inch axle with disk brakes. One from a Lincoln Versailles will work.
Of course a Ford 9 inch is extremely heavy. You might find it feasible
to use a Chrysler 8 1/4 from something like a Duster and put a MOPAR
disc brake conversion on. However which ever direction you go you may
find it extremely pricey to do a full disc. conversion.
John.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:52:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] amx disk brake kit for 62 classic
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200605141452.k4EEq0H23289@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
"
" also, i forgot to mention, i am having a hard time finding disk brake
" kit that will go onto amc 20. ford 8.8 looks close to the right bolt
" pattern. but then again so does the SMALL 9". i am in iraq right now
" so its impossible for me to take measurements. just going by eye in
" pics. im planning on running some 17" torque thrust wheels so i need
" something that will look good peeking thru the wheels. thanks to
" anyone who can shed some light on this issue for me.
someone on this list has them. tsm [the streetrod manuf co] has them.
ssb and probably others have kits for the jeep amc20 which should
be usable with the right rotors.
the amc20 housing flange pattern is the same as the ford 'small
bearing' 9", 3 5/16" w x 2" h. fyi '80s jeep d44 and d35 too.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:53:19 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMX running 8's (cool video)
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Happy Mother's Day to all you momma's. Arnie Goodrich sent me this neat
video, although a little shaky, it is 4:38 minutes long of a AMX smacking
around brand x cars like Mike Tyson smacked his momma for Mother's Day. I
don't know you need a Media Player for this but it came up fine on mine and
enjoyed the show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq1h0K_uKhc&search=amx
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:44:50 -0400
From: "Mark Anthony Sproviero" <msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMX running 8's (cool video)
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <005601c6777e$19f55150$c811a8c0@deathstar>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I enjoyed the video and the car's performance, but...
...wasn't that bracket racing, where they aren't racing each other? It doesn't look like there was
much competition for that guy at the track that day. lol
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:53 PM
To: baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; AMC List
Subject: [AMC-List] AMX running 8's (cool video)
Happy Mother's Day to all you momma's. Arnie Goodrich sent me this neat
video, although a little shaky, it is 4:38 minutes long of a AMX smacking
around brand x cars like Mike Tyson smacked his momma for Mother's Day. I
don't know you need a Media Player for this but it came up fine on mine and
enjoyed the show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq1h0K_uKhc&search=amx
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Shipping a Vdub
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Justine; driving a new-to-you car cross country is not
for everyone, especially those feint of heart. You
don't know for sure what lies in the road ahead for
you.
I gave a guy in Nor Cal the same idea about a 67 rebel
wagon that I knew of here in Salem. He showed up by
way of Greyhound with a tool box, cell phone and dough
in hand. He also brought his son along. They bought
the car and headed South. Last I heard they made it.
I did this with a 64 Fairlane some years ago, but
without the cell phone (still don't have one). I did
bring along my 10-speed, though! Just in case, ya
know. The drive back gave me a chance to write down
all the quirks and noises, and get into kind of a
strange zen state, driving a strange car, unknown to
me, across the Oregon desert.
Yeah, it broke down in the middle of nowhere. I did a
little campin', met a hippy chick who gave me a puppy,
a taste for cottage cheese and pears and some
memories. I got back to Salem about 4 days later.
Camped out for 3 days while I fixed a wheel cylinder
supporting the car on the water cooler.
Would I do it again, you bet, in a NY minute......Russ
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:54:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Maacos botched job
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John, sorry for your bad experience. It happens to
everyone. Don't expect show quality work, but there is
a professional restorer in the Portland area sends all
his basic restoration work down here to the Salem
store. One of his Buick's (late forties) was being
done when I went to get my AMX. They showed me his
Stude waiting in the yard.
I might add that you don't want to send your car in
with the $1800 tires and wheel combo, as they will get
over spray on it. Get a set of beater tires and
wheels, I always keep a set around, and send those.
Unbolt the wipers and trim, let it fall into the cowl
with baling wire attached to the shaft so it can be
fished back out. I wrap masking tape around any thing
I don't want sprayed. Unbolt the antenna, tape up the
mast and let it fall into the well.
Use body tape, not cheap masking tape. Again, like
everyone says, PPPPPP (prior planning prevents piss
poor performance)......Russ
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:59:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] vent window gaskets
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Can't be had!! I replaced the one in my 64 from a 66
Classic 4-dr. All the vent wiindows that sloped are
the same, so you are looking at 63 to 69 to fit. I
have a couple left over, contact me off list.....Russ
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:59:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] window gaskets
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Can't be had!! I replaced the one in my 64 from a 66
Classic 4-dr. All the vent wiindows that sloped are
the same, so you are looking at 63 to 69 to fit. I
have a couple left over, contact me off list.....Russ
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:12:06 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] MAACO or equivelent paint jobs.
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I didn't say earlier, but this local shop I used (Dave & Sams), I walked
around in their lot looking at their work before we had the first car
done. Incoming wrecks to cars in final detail, and in between. Pretty
good work over all; some were getting work finer than I got, likely
insurance work. I negotiated downwards from the original estimate. An
"old fashioned" shop.
These guys were pretty good about overspray; none in the engine, where
there was some was in areas most people don't care about; rear leaf
springs, from front rails, a bit on the tie rods.
THey were old-fashioned slow too; MAACO and the like are probably a lot
better at time management!
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:03:48 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Corrections to-Re: AMX disk brake kit for 62
classic
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000001c677e5$58fefd80$d6dc0d82@john1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The Bendix 4 piston Calipers were used from 1966 to 1970 (not 1971) as
an optional
brake on AMC cars.
You might find it feasible to use a Chrysler 8 3/4 (not 1/4) from
something like a Duster and put a MOPAR
disc brake conversion on it
Sorry about that, I shoulda done a better job of proof reading
John
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:02:49 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] A Peaceful Productive Day Sunday.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
AmericanMotorsModelbuilders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sunday was a nice quiet peaceful day. The wife went to church and after
that my son took her out to lunch and then they went to my daughters for
the afternoon. While watching the Formula One race I worked on my grill.
A couple of hours more of sanding and cleaning today and I will be ready
to paint it tomorrow if the weather permits, finally.
"Doc"
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