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Today's Topics:

   1. Brand New Comp Hyd Cam for sale (BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx)
   2. chrome 1973 Gremlin rear bumper for sale
      (BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx)
   3. Re: Kim's Paint Job (markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
   4. Re: Kims paint job (Sandwich Maker)
   5. Test: Do not reply (Vince Scamardo)
   6. AM see (Mahoney, John)
   7. Fw: Question for item #9518937432 - AMC bumper guard	Hornet
      Gremlin AMX SST X Concord (Eddie Stakes)
   8. Re: Hornet-Eagle question (Jeff Reeves)
   9. Re: 73 Matador 2dr for sale (Jeff Reeves)
  10. Re: My Latest project (J. Johnson)
  11. Backspacing on 15x7 Rally Wheels (amxjavelin@xxxxxxxxxxx)
  12. Re: 1973 2dr Matador 4-Sale (Jim Shadwick)
  13. Re: 73 2dr Matador For Sale (Mr. AMC)
  14. Re: 73 2dr Matador For Sale (Jim Shadwick)
  15. Re: 73 Matador 2 dr for sale (Eddie Stakes)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 12:16:42 +0000
From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Brand New Comp Hyd Cam for sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<051120061216.26594.44632B2A00073124000067E22205886442020704030A9DB9CCC99C9CBE0B0E0EBD@xxxxxxxxxxx>
	
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I have a brand new never used Comp AMC 290-401 Hyd. 305/540 cme for sale 50$ buys it.
please emal me at BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxx if interested
Bart
73 Gremlin 360/T10 project

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 12:18:44 +0000
From: BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] chrome 1973 Gremlin rear bumper for sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<051120061218.1085.44632BA4000B4D700000043D2200737478020704030A9DB9CCC99C9CBE0B0E0EBD@xxxxxxxxxxx>
	
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I have a straight as an arrow no rust almost new looking 1973 Gremlin rear bumper for sale 20$ buys it,please email me at BaadAss73Gremlin@xxxxxxx if interested
regards
Bart M.
73 Gremlin 360/T10 project

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 6:02:53 -0700
From: markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Kim's Paint Job
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Cc: "Mr. AMC" <AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20453218.1147352573526.JavaMail.root@web27>
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A few years back I put a rear main seal in a Mustang conv that had a Maaco spray job on it. It was sharp. Nice heavy metallic dark red. No funky stuff in the metallic, no strips, no dirt, very glossy with minimal orange peal if any. The only thing it needed was better prep work. It had the body colored side moldings, so they just sprayed them in place. Other then that it was super sharp. My wife has mentioned wanting to change the color on her Jeep. If I ever get to it, I would prep it myself stripping off all the flairs and trim and take it to Maaco and let them spray it. Only problem is the nearest shop is two hours away!
-
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV


---- "Mr. AMC" <AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Russ is right about Maaco. It is usually poor preparation that kills
> their jobs. A friend poorly prepared his Javelin body work wise and just
> had Maaco scuff it and shoot it. It was masked pretty good and painted a
> metallic gold. The paint had no runs or dirt and had a real nice gloss.
> In some metallic's the metallic in the paint runs and not the paint, it
> didn't even have that. All in all if the preparation had been done
> properly it would have been a real nice job for a real reasonable price.
> Needless to say the poor initial preparation made it look like a real
> smear job. 
> "Doc"
> 
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:22:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Kims paint job
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200605111222.k4BCMxX09522@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

" From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Kim; If the car is straight, take off all the chrome
" and the windshield, take off the rear hatch and wing
" window.
" Go to Maaco (everyone stop snickering) and ask for
" their top paint job. Get some extra coats of paint and
" clear. Then have it wet sanded after the paint cures
" and buffed out. New window seals and becareful about
" putting on the bumpers. I don't think you will be into
" it more than $1500. And Maacos top paint job is a real
" nice 3 foot paint job.......Russ

maaco is also one of the few places with ovens to bake-cure the paint
in.  they can't give it a really hard bake unless you strip everything
nonmetallic off, but even what they can do gives you a better, more
durable finish.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:52:26 -0500
From: "Vince Scamardo" <vscamardo@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Test: Do not reply
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY107-F7854C9E1D3FE1E2CD0059B7AF0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Please do not reply.




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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:51:32 -0400
From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AM see
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
	<E8DF38ACFC17F94998DE284C5CE4582A02202B8E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

AMC money,

http://tinyurl.com/nfm7n

(If your PC is [or you're] lazy, RM sold a '70 AMX for $10,593) 

AMC artistry,

http://www.eyeson.org/html/evn_eod_pos_06.htm

AMC archives,

http://www.autoblog.it/post/3743/bmw-mille-miglia-concept#more

(of AMX, Tarpon, and Marlin)

(If you want easier-to-read words, you get harder-to-see photos) 

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=14533

AMC VP memories, 

"Mentioning Marlin was like shouting 'Edsel' at Ford: part of the fun."

and Datyona dreams. 

http://mmm.lib.msu.edu/search/imagedisplay.cfm?i=EB01e502

27 years ago yesterday, I ordered a small [two-seat-plus] AMC fastback.

But I just couldn't decide on a paint color.

Should it be Alpaca Brown or British Bronze?

At the very last moment, I chose 9A over 8B.

I didn't have a -clue- about its AM history.

http://www.rmauctions.com/images/cars/az06/az06_r125_1.jpg 

Who knew!

See?



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:36:51 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: Question for item #9518937432 - AMC bumper
	guard	Hornet Gremlin AMX SST X Concord
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <014401c67528$41eb2930$28f1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hey folks, does anyone know whether a bumper guard will interchange from 
side to side or are they side specific? I know some won't interchange due to 
the uniqueness of the bumpers. I have a set of NOS Matador ones and it is 
two seperate part numbers for instance. And on my Ambassador SST, same deal, 
one right one left, however on some models like Eagle, it will interchange, 
or rear of 68-74 AMX/Javelin interchange no problem. Anyone know for sure 
please feel free to comment. The item link is down below.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com


Item: AMC bumper guard Hornet Gremlin AMX SST X Concord (9518937432)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
donandmarie is a potential buyer.
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Is it for the left or right side?
Item name:                             AMC bumper guard Hornet Gremlin AMX 
SST X Concord
Item number:                           9518937432
End date:                              May-16-06 18:44:06 PDT

View the item description here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9518937432



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:41:00 -0400
From: Jeff Reeves <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Hornet-Eagle question
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<ADVANCES62JsusXlCYE0000014b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

Russ:

Yes, the Eagle hatch/glass and the Hornet hatch/glass are 100%
interchangeable. Keep in mind that the Eagle wagon is just a Sportabout 
with 4WD and different front sheetmetal. And, in actuality, Hornets
were available with a heated rear window starting in about 1975 or so.

To carry the thought a bit further, you could use the Eagle donor car
to install power windows and door locks on your Hornet....

Jeff Reeves
Auburn GA
94 Cherokee
79 Spirit GT
73 Javelin 401
72 Javelin SST
69 Ambassador DPL

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:37:57 -0400
From: Jeff Reeves <amcnut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 Matador 2dr for sale
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<ADVANCES62pH2q6DqaJ00000149@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

Nice solid car, but what's with the Chevy truck moldings on the
side???

Re value--unfortunately, you won't get as much as you'd like for this
car simply because AMC Matadors don't rank high on anyone's value list. 
As mentioned earlier, Eddie Stakes tried to sell a 14,000 original mile 
71 Matador 2dr for about 5 or 6 years, and finally found it a home. 

IMHO, you could probably realistically expect to get anywhere from
$1500-3000 for your car, mostly due to the fact that it's straight and
rust free. Of course, you might have terrific luck and find someone
willing to pay a lotta $$ for it, but like I said, that's my humble
opinion. 

Ebay seems to be a good indicator of current market value on cars like
this. Put it out there, with a reserve. If it meets reserve, terrific.
If no, then maybe it will give you some idea of how much you can get
for it.

Good luck!
Jeff Reeves
Auburn GA
94 Cherokee
79 Spirit GT
73 Javelin 401
72 Javelin SST
69 Ambassador DPL

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 13:11:28 -0400
From: "J. Johnson" <imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] My Latest project
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:30:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: <amxjavelin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Backspacing on 15x7 Rally Wheels
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<4821612.184331147375848026.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hello:

I have a '73 Javelin with the 14x6 8-slot rally wheels. The backspacing on these wheels is 4".  I would like to switch to 15x7 wheels and would like to know what the backspacing on the factory 15x7 rally wheel was for a reference? 

Thanks,
Dave


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:12:07 -0600
From: Jim Shadwick <idahoamx@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1973 2dr Matador 4-Sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <44639A97.9060804@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Rus....

What is the interior like....pictures.....

I paid $3900 for my low millage 73 in Nov of 2004....there was a guy 
willing to pay $5000 for it.....

http://www.cascaderamblers.org/common/gallery.php?year=1973

on the bottom.....and it is not perfect.....which I found out when I got 
it home....

I would try e-bay.................I went to $4100 on a 72 in early 2004 
not as nice as yours or mine.......I think the problem
with the one Eddie was selling was the color.....

Jim
USN Retired



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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:17:10 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 2dr Matador For Sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <22129-4463A9D6-915@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

Jim I don't think it was the color that kept Eddie's  car from selling.
The 74 Hornet I bought 2 1/2 years ago was a 99% rust free car from
Florida. It was orange with a puke tan interior with a horrible 70's
style leisure suite plaid colored seat inserts in the seats. The 99%
rust free and the 500$ sale price sold me on the car and fact it was a
74 Hornet Hatchback also sold me on the car. 74 Hornet's are my thing. I
still have my bought new yellow one. I have learned to live with the
orange color after I installed a whole new black interior and now when
it will need paint it will be re-painted the same orange. My son was
interested in Eddie's car but being a 71 with the Warner trans turned
him off along with other issues in the pic's sent. Unless you are a low
mileage car collector a rust free low mileage car can be re-painted and
the interior re-done to your tastes. My low mileage 99% rust free car
was a mechanical nightmare. But mechanical repairs are
WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY cheaper than rust or previous collision damage to
repair.
"Doc"



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:43:01 -0600
From: Jim Shadwick <idahoamx@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 2dr Matador For Sale
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <4463BDF5.8000409@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Mr. AMC
Your probably right Doc......it did have some issues..... for me it was 
the color and the fact it was a 71...I only wanted
a 72 or 73..mine has a 360 2bl /TF...runs really good.....but does have 
some minor body and paint issues...no rust....

Jim


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 20:33:12 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 73 Matador 2 dr for sale
To: "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Eh, the one I had for sale was for sale for a staggering 6+ years. Have 
NEVER Atried so hard to sell a AMC. Relentless ads for $4500, then $3500. 
Put it on ebay with reserve not, once, not twice, but three times before 
listing it for $1900 and NO reserve where it sold for $2650.

This was a 14,000 mile car folks. I drove it all of 208 miles in the 13 
years I owned it. It STILL HAD LESS THAN 15,000 ORIGINAL MILES on it when 
the fellow flew in recently to drive it home to Marietta, Georgia!

Here are some photos off my 'Matador Machine' file on my site:
thsi is it at the Nationals we did in Houston. The car had a few bites but 
no one was willing to give me $3500 for it either.
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71_matador_amc_nationals.jpg

A side view:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71matador_ds.jpg

Stunning interior in front
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_buckets.jpg

and in back no one had ever sat:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_ps_rseat.jpg

flawless dash
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_dash_close.jpg

engine bay in original faded glory
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_engine_front.jpg
and most of the items are date coded also. I did change the carb years ago.

another angle
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71matador_ps_frt.jpg

original bill of sale
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_owner_id.jpg
there was TONS of original paperwork and documentation with this low miler.

http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_odometer.jpg
this photo shows the odometer with still less than 15,000 miles several days 
before the buyer picked it up.

http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/71mat_sales_2.jpg
here is more...this is the original bill of sale from Wtihen 
AMC/Rambler/Datsu in Brimingham, AL!

And lastly, off my 'window stickers' file on my site is the original Matador 
window sticker:
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/amc_window_stickers/71_SAMPLE_WINDOW_STICKER.jpg
if this link is too long for here, simply click on 'window stickers' on my 
site and then 71 Matador.

This is the file of the 71 Matador Machine
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/matador_machine.htm

Back to mine, there was only 7776 71 Matador two doors made. Mine was one of 
two ultra low miles still known to exist. I mentioned to Jim(?) the seller 
who original asked the question what his is worth that one of AMC's slogans 
was "The Nicest Car You've Never Seen" for the "new" 71 Matador. AMC had a 
sense of humor, humour if Canadian. But it didn't help move the Matadors 
either.

As for ebay.....not everything sells on ebay either. This Matador was a 
prime case. I am something like 2 out of 7 (better record than Houston 
Texans last year though) on selling a car on fee bay.

My fly in drive home 69 Ambassador SST is still for sale for $975 if anyone 
interested, hell, the tilt column alone is worth about 1/2 of that:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4630772691

And my 68 AMX just "sold" or at least I thought it did, however the buyer 
was not Nigerian but a 16 year old kid. His dad has agreed to pay my listing 
fee, final value fee and relisting fee, so like herpes, this dog will pop 
back up on ebay again:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4632920558

I believe the Matador produced from 71-73 had some sort of image problem. 
And I'm not sure why as I really like the bumper incorporated into the body, 
seems like AMC got it right there as opposed to earlier 67-70 Ambassador and 
67-69 Rebel.

I was disppointed my 72 Matador Z code two door with 46,000 miles in 
original Yuca Tan only brought $2650:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4562427988&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAS:US:3

(item number 4562427988 above if link breaks)

Imagine same car...in same condition....if a Sattelite, Road Runner, 
Charger, Monte Carlo, or any other intermediate. This was a formidable 
401/727, the most powerful AMC had to offer. $2650. And so it goes!

Good luck with the Matty, I hope you do good with it, feel free to place 
your for sale on my 'amc classifieds'
 http://www.planethoustonamx.com/bodyMessageBoard.htm
also, actually any of ya'll can utilize that too.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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