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Today's Topics:

   1. Rear sway bars..... (William Renshaw)
   2. Eddie Stakes ebay crap (Joe)
   3. Re: Matador Bumpers (Mark Price) (John Elle)
   4. Re: Gremlin Rear Sway Bar (John Elle)
   5. Re: Matador Bumpers (Mark Price) (amckiwi)
   6. Matador Bumpers (Mr. AMC)
   7. Just a test (Jim Stone)
   8. Question on Crossmembers... (J. Johnson)
   9. Re: Non AMC Power Steering Question (KSiroonian@xxxxxxx)
  10. Re: 64 Rambler Classic Progress Report (cont'd). (farna@xxxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 21:25:39 -0700
From: "William Renshaw" <lionwren@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Rear sway bars.....
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <BAY105-F399AAE506C104A8C89A675C5B50@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed


I have someone looking for a rear sway bar for my Gremlin X "clone" project. 
What I am wondering what will work? Any small bodied AMC? Doing some 
swapping on some parts and the guy I have looking hasnt had any luck finding 
one yet. Is this going to be a hard part to find? Could I have one custome 
made? Sorry for my rant earlier. It just upsetting that places like that do 
that to people. I do have an idea on how to get them to pay for the rotors. 
Its kind of dirty, but paybacks are bitch. Thanks to all who may respond. 
Your time and efforts and really appreciated.


Bill Renshaw Lewiston Idaho
AKA Brother B.
AMC'S RULE.....the rest just drool like the dogs they are.
1973 Gremlin X "clone" (project)
1970 Original Hornet "plain jane"
1974 Matador Coupe "Parts car"




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 22:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Eddie Stakes ebay crap
To: AMC list <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,	BadAssGremlins
	<baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060505052026.10219.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Eddie. I see have been online. I've emailed you
several times with no reply.You really need to 
contact me today about that Gremlin door skin! Sorry i
had to mention it here...BUT since the auction ended
and i received the piece .....you do not answer
emails,or ebay questions? NEVER ever had a issue
before?? Joe

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 22:28:36 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Matador Bumpers (Mark Price)
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000001c67004$c30c6f70$f4dc0d82@john1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Removing the bumpers on a Matador Coupe does something else other than
making it look 200% better. I might add though that if you install a
good looking set of wheels it makes a big difference too!. I put a bunch
of miles on a 77 middle of the road 304 coupe as a used car so this was
somewhere around 1981 or so and I spend a couple of weeks driving it
around the freeways of southern California with no bumpers as I worked
on the body to repaint it white from the International Orange that it
was and yes there was a story about that. 
Once you got all of that weight off of the ends of the car and lemme
tell you those bumpers and mounts weighed a ton the basic handling
improved 200% too. What is called Polar movement changed completely and
the beast started handling like a well balanced sports car. I was
driving the car on business at that time and carried a lot of tools in
the trunk. There were air shocks installed and I kept just enough air in
them to level out the car at any given point in time. Once I got the car
painted and the "5 slot mag wheels" installed which filled out the wheel
wells I re-installed the bumpers to protect it from LA traffic. And the
handling once again reverted to factory equivalent of, well can we say
Oink!
The car served me very well for a few years. It was on one hand probably
for what ever reason the fastest 2bbl V8 car I have ever owned, but on
the other hand it never got any better than 11mpg. It could do that
though even if it was parked and un-occupied.  I thanked my lucky stars
for the 26 gallon gas tank many times over. That was also a car that I
learned a basic rule from on the economics of operation. It was cheap to
buy and maintain and it was paid for. Under those conditions you can
afford to put a lot of gasoline in the tank. A situation I still find to
be true today. 
I had a lower control arm go out on the car. As I was debating whether
to fix it or dump it the control arm went really bad. I finally decided
to fix it and dropped it off at a repair shop recommended to me through
the CarQuest store that I bought parts from. As I was driving my Javelin
on business at the time then I got a call after a couple of days, the
shop was unable to find a control arm.  This was at my house first thing
in the AM. A half an our later or so I walked into the shop in your
basic business suit and tie and handed the mechanic a freshly picked
lower control arm that I was able to stop by my favorite AMC junk yard
to get. I will never forget the look on the shop foremen's  face as I
handed him the control arm that a half an hour before he carefully
explained to me that he had spent 2 days not finding and was sure there
was nothing in southern California and my white shirt was not even
dirty. You know, owning AMC cars have been fun for a long time. 
Thanks by now.
John


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 23:44:43 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Gremlin Rear Sway Bar
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <000001c6700f$6843ec20$f4dc0d82@john1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Bill, 
It might be a good idea to contact this guy,  it is altogether possible
he is going to have a ? inch sway bar that he is not going to use
anymore along with mounting brackets. 
SNIP
Hello every one I have a 79 spirit amx that I would like to convert the
rearend to a ford. I have a 1985 Ford ranger 2 wd
Bryan
Wilson   <mailto:bryan_Wilson9621@xxxxxxxxx> bryan_Wilson9621@xxxxxxxxx
330)-347-9803 / (330)-684-1199
SNIP
SNIP
I have someone looking for a rear sway bar for my Gremlin X "clone"
project.
What I am wondering what will work? Any small bodied AMC? 
Bill Renshaw Lewiston Idaho
SNIP
My guess would be that the parts are going to be a bit hard to find but
they would probably be found on a Hornet, Concord or Spirit AMX or a
Spirit GT or maybe even a 68 through 70 AMX or Javelin AMX. Granted
there are fewer and fewer of these things around these days but you only
need to find one! Also there were a few items of this nature that were
after market available and contacting some one like Tony Zamich might be
in order. But they could be a bit pricey going that direction. 
John
 


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 19:27:52 +1000
From: "amckiwi" <amckiwi@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Matador Bumpers (Mark Price)
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <000a01c67026$32108750$0200a8c0@tower>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="windows-1250"

John nice story
I have a friend with a 360 Coupe which he runs on Gas (LPG)
He loves the car I will suggest to him what you have talked about and see
what he thinks
Cheers
Stu
Melbourne
Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of John Elle
Sent: Friday, 5 May 2006 3:29 PM
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Matador Bumpers (Mark Price)

Removing the bumpers on a Matador Coupe does something else other than
making it look 200% better. I might add though that if you install a
good looking set of wheels it makes a big difference too!. I put a bunch
of miles on a 77 middle of the road 304 coupe as a used car so this was
somewhere around 1981 or so and I spend a couple of weeks driving it
around the freeways of southern California with no bumpers as I worked
on the body to repaint it white from the International Orange that it
was and yes there was a story about that. 
Once you got all of that weight off of the ends of the car and lemme
tell you those bumpers and mounts weighed a ton the basic handling
improved 200% too. What is called Polar movement changed completely and
the beast started handling like a well balanced sports car. I was
driving the car on business at that time and carried a lot of tools in
the trunk. There were air shocks installed and I kept just enough air in
them to level out the car at any given point in time. Once I got the car
painted and the "5 slot mag wheels" installed which filled out the wheel
wells I re-installed the bumpers to protect it from LA traffic. And the
handling once again reverted to factory equivalent of, well can we say
Oink!
The car served me very well for a few years. It was on one hand probably
for what ever reason the fastest 2bbl V8 car I have ever owned, but on
the other hand it never got any better than 11mpg. It could do that
though even if it was parked and un-occupied.  I thanked my lucky stars
for the 26 gallon gas tank many times over. That was also a car that I
learned a basic rule from on the economics of operation. It was cheap to
buy and maintain and it was paid for. Under those conditions you can
afford to put a lot of gasoline in the tank. A situation I still find to
be true today. 
I had a lower control arm go out on the car. As I was debating whether
to fix it or dump it the control arm went really bad. I finally decided
to fix it and dropped it off at a repair shop recommended to me through
the CarQuest store that I bought parts from. As I was driving my Javelin
on business at the time then I got a call after a couple of days, the
shop was unable to find a control arm.  This was at my house first thing
in the AM. A half an our later or so I walked into the shop in your
basic business suit and tie and handed the mechanic a freshly picked
lower control arm that I was able to stop by my favorite AMC junk yard
to get. I will never forget the look on the shop foremen's  face as I
handed him the control arm that a half an hour before he carefully
explained to me that he had spent 2 days not finding and was sure there
was nothing in southern California and my white shirt was not even
dirty. You know, owning AMC cars have been fun for a long time. 
Thanks by now.
John
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 06:54:37 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Matador Bumpers
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

I would be hesitant to run the car without bumpers for fear of damage.
Like I said I liked the late 60's Vette bumpers on a Matador. They are a
hell of a light lighter and better looking and would give you some
semblance of protection. 
"Doc"



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 10:00:17 -0400
From: Jim Stone <stoneji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Just a test
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<ADVANCES62x8dyDd3OJ0000014e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain

Sorry, everybody, I'm testing some things on the AMX Files site and
couldn't think of any real AMC content to add.

Jim Stone
stoneji@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 13:20:37 -0400
From: "J. Johnson" <imfatdad@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Question on Crossmembers...
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 00:15:03 -0400
From: KSiroonian@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Non AMC Power Steering Question
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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i thought John Elle said he had good luck with the Lucas power steering additive. My pacer rack is leaking as well and needs new boots, so before I use the extra one I have, I am going to replace the boots and try to drain out some of the ps fluid in the system and give the lucas a try. I wonder if the amc tech manual says hot to flush the system. good luck, regards. K.


n May 4, 2006 markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Unless you are positive the pump is not harmed too. I'd ditch it and replace both, consider the lines too. Even if you don't replace everything, make sure you flush it all real good so you don't pump any contaminants into the new rack. IIRC you can get a filter to install in the low pressure line to trap anything the flush may miss.
>   Now a days rebuilt pumps and new hoses aren't horrendously expensive, If you can swing it replace it all and start fresh.--
> Mark Price
> markprice242ATadelphia.net
> Morgantown, WV
> 
> 
> ---- Robert Sliko <robert.sliko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Well.......give it a little time and the problem becomes more obvious.
> > Looks like my initial problem with the whining was an indicator for an
> > upcoming problem with the rack.  The original fluid level was fine the first
> > day and was refilled to the right level after changing the fluid and
> > everything worked OK.   But now the rack is leaking out of the right
> > bellows.  Apparently the rack failed on the second day (though now no
> > whining noise as long as the fluid level is right).  Seems the bellows
> > initially contained all the leaking fluid and the foaming was a secondary
> > effect from the lowered fluid level and air entering the rack.
> >
> >     Looks like I need a new rack...Thanks to all who responded.
> >
> > Bob
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Jennings" <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Non AMC Power Steering Question
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 03:43, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> > >
> > >> i keep thinking it must have a crack, loose fitting, bad o-ring or
> > >> something, on the suction side of the pump, so that it can pull a
> > >> little air into the fluid.  but i'm baffled why it took a day for the
> > >> foaming to recur.
> > >>
> > >> the other time foaming happens is when there's a leak on the pressure
> > >> side; when the fluid level gets low enough the pump pulls air from the
> > >> reservoir, but this clearly isn't your problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > It could also be simply overfilled; there is a recommended fill
> > > proceedure, and overfill is a big mess. The original problem could have
> > > been a cracked hose etc sucking in air, but compunded by overfilling.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 11:58:06 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 64 Rambler Classic Progress Report (cont'd).
To: piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
Message-ID:
	<050520061158.13378.445B3DCE0000592B0000344221604666480E029D0E00@xxxxxxx>
	

That's a common problem Joe! Go to http://www.mattsoldcars.com/techinfo/boltmod.shtml to find the best fix. A lathe is best, but you can carefully grind and/or file the bolt down. If using a grinder get a cup of water and keep it close by, dipping the bolt in the water after a few seconds of grinding. It will "hiss" for a second when you dip it, but shouldn't "hiss" for more than that. The bolt SHOULD NOT change color at any time! If it does you got it to hot and need to get another. A grade 8 bolt is all it is, so you can get a hardware store replacement. You'll need a 1/2" wide file or grinder though. 

If the engine was recently rebuilt it's poosible that the cam bearing oil hole wasn't properly aligned. Hope that's not the problem!

--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Independent 
Magazine" (AIM)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)

--- original message--------------------------------
There appears to be no oil getting to the valve train
and of course the valve clattering did not subside.
The oil pressure idiot light did go out when the
engine started.  I then drained the oil and plan to
pull the oil pan next to inspect the oil pickup and
oil pump.  


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