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Today's Topics:
1. EBAY ITEMS THAT ARE GOING OFF TODAY (hal.lynch@xxxxxxx)
2. Showing at WPC Show? (Bob Fratini)
3. Darn good day at Carlise PA auto flea - AMX / GT pics, AMC
Concept pics, gas caps, etc. (Jerry Casper)
4. IMPORTANT FOR ALL AOL AND YAHOO MAIL ACCOUNT USERS (farna@xxxxxxx)
5. CA Desert Javelin (JOE FULTON)
6. Re: IMPORTANT FOR ALL AOL, YAHOO, and HOTMAIL ACCOUNT
USERS!!! (Jim Blair)
7. WPC Shows? (JOE FULTON)
8. FW: Rambler Ventshades - help with part numbers (farna@xxxxxxx)
9. Re: WPC Shows? (Ross Guistino)
10. Matador Coupe Parts Needed (JOE FULTON)
11. Re: Showing at WPC Show? (Jim Shadwick)
12. Re: AOL (Tom Jennings)
13. Re: V8 Gremlin axle setup for sale (Sandwich Maker)
14. Re: 77 AMX leaf springs wanted (Sandwich Maker)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:12:58 +0000
From: hal.lynch@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] EBAY ITEMS THAT ARE GOING OFF TODAY
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi guys,
I have the following ebay items ending this evening if you want to take a look:
brand new polished clifford valve covr in box current bid $55
NOS ealge sport left rear tailight n box current bid $41
NOS AMC N14LY spark plugs 8 current bid $15
Turned metal AMX enblems for dash of 71-74 Jvelin AMX current bid $52
NOS factory AMC oil filters Group number 1.206 part number 8993146 $1
Hal
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:06:01 -0500
From: Bob Fratini <rcfratini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Showing at WPC Show?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
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What's the current thinking (and experience) on this list about
participating in Mopar shows?
I'm considering bringing my '68 Ambassador to the Walter P. Chrysler show
in Elmhurst, IL. next Sunday. It's no award-winner or 10-point
restoration, but it's been rebuilt and restored to good condition...and
it's spring, and I'd like to start hitting a show or two in the Chicagoland
area.
I know that Chrysler corporate was no friend (to put it mildly) to AMC'ers
in the way they handled the takeover of AMC and the closing of the Kenosha
plant. But I'm more curious about the current reception/attitude among
Mopar hobbyists towards AMCs.
Advice and experiences are welcome; flames re-hashing Chrysler's crimes
against AMC are not. Thanks!
-- Bob Fratini
Naperville, IL
'68 Ambassador DPL 4-door 290-2V
'63 Classic 770 4-door 287-2V
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:11:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Darn good day at Carlise PA auto flea - AMX / GT
pics, AMC Concept pics, gas caps, etc.
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, AMC <amc-delmarva@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
BadAssGremlins <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20060423141135.98376.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Unfortunately the whole day was a rainy mess, with
alot of vendors there packing up and leaving, and not
a huge crush of people on the grounds. The 3 large
buildings stayed reasonably full, and had lots of
business ( I spent 3/4 of my money in just the first
building I came to, after seeing only half of it. LOL.
)
Looked for parts, not as much luck , but found a few
gems. Here's my finds breakdown of parts and pictures.
- (2) Hornet gas caps, one stainless, one cast pot
metal non-locking, both nice shape
- (1) 390 fender emblem, not sure what year.
- envelope of pictures of AMC concept vehicles in
'78, the mini van, Concept I, Concept II, the Jeep
concept, and another. 11 x 14 size?
- AMX / GT magazine pictures, shots I hadn't seen
before, with different angles, 3 different pics, 2
color, 1 b&w, all small
- about 20 B & W OEM sales pictures of Ramblers from
63-69, with attached AMC file paper. $1 each. Some
wagons, Rebel, American, Ambassador, Classic. Also
some pics of the Twin-stick, 390 motor cut-away view,
with AMC file paper attached.
- AMC postcards, 2 Matador Coupe, 2 Gremlin
- Stock Car racing magazines, 1 with Penske Matador
article, another with Hybrid Hornet ( AMC ) heads
article, Kanner related.
- 4 dealership reference books, thin, technical.
- 8 x 10 B & W auto expo photo with the AMC AMX
Vignale concept car on a rotating stage,and a Marlin
and Ambassador around it.
- Mark Donohue (inset photo) with a Penske Matador
#16 on 8 x 10 glossy color picture, "signed". press
release, I guess.
That pretty much made up the inside acquisitions, we
ate about 12 noon, went back to building shopping for
another 2 hours, then we tried to walk the grounds,
but it started pouring down again soon as we got
outside....Grrr! We walked a few rows, looked at a few
vendors under cover, we found a '64 Rambler Wagon for
sale, $4,400 price. Found a few AMC hubcaps scattered
here and there. After a friend's purchase of a
come-along, we wearily decided to trudge across the
field to the exit, hitting any vendor(s) left on the
way. Got near the gate, found another book vendor,
stopped in there. I found a Standard Catalog of
Independents for $8, told my friends about it, that it
was a great price, and that I'd give them first shot
at it, but I was buying it if they didn't. One did. :)
We headed out the gate, then, got to our cars and
headed for somewhere with some HOT coffee. Found a
dunkin' Donut store, we warmed up some, exchanged some
items we'd brought for each other, then started the
dreary trip home again.
Overall, it was a great day, from a
literature/picture standpoint, as I got some great
photos, the AMX/GT and Concept shots were wonderful
finds. I'm happy with all my finds. The Hornet gas
caps and 390 fender emblem were nice , too. Only parts
I bought all day, except for my wife's birthday
present. Heh heh! Too bad it was so nasty, but I feel
the trip itself for the stuff I got was worth it, and
a chance to see friends who live 4 hours away I don't
see often. I'll have to get my pictures put away in
protected sleeves for now. Maybe one day I'll get my
new building set up for showing them all off. :)
Jerry in Virginia
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:14:29 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] IMPORTANT FOR ALL AOL AND YAHOO MAIL ACCOUNT USERS
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
Message-ID:
<042320061414.3603.444B8BC4000ECCC800000E1321603762230E029D0E00@xxxxxxx>
UPDATE: AS OF APRIL 22 AOL HAS BLOCKED THE AMC-LIST SERVER FROM
ALL AOL MEMBERS!! 10-20 people complained, 230+ just got cut off...
NOTE: I have been informed that Hotmail is owned by Microsoft? All hotmail account holders don't seem to be affected, we have several still receiving mail. Apparently hotmail has only blocked those who asked (if any did) -- we may have cut those off before hotmail took any action. I have edited the message below to delete references to hotmail.
Remember those people who complained loudly when the list changed servers, the
ones that forgot they had ever subscribed? It seems that 3-4 days of getting
the relatively few mail messages (no more than 30 in one day, and most of those
were messages they generated with "get me off" messages sent to the list) was
to much for them. A few apparently complained to AOL and Yahoo before Tom and I
could delete them. Both AOL and Yahoo have a heavy handed way of dealing with
complaints -- they block the server. The result is because of a few complaints
no one using those mail systems can get list mail. Several members with AOL and
Yahoo addresses have recently complained about not being able to post mail either
through e-mail or the web site. The reason is AOL and Yahoo is blocking the site.
Tom and I have sent explanations to AOL and Yahoo. Both sent us forms to fill
out to allow mail to go through. The Yahoo form will be sent in shortly, and
might go through. AOL has told us to "resubmit in 30 days". This is likely so
they can monitor traffic from the list server.
If you are with AOL or Yahoo DO NOT resubscribe at this time with an
AOL or Yahoo account. The server will try to send you a confirmation
message four times then unsubscribe you after it bounces four times. These four
tries might be seen as continuing spam attempts by AOL or Yahoo.
What you CAN do is report the problem of not being able te receive mail or sign
up to the list to AOL/Yahoo. If enough users complain (provided any see
this!) they should relent and let the messages through. In the meantime, try
another e-mnail account such as a free g-mail account or another ISP. This may
be a good time to consider a "real" ISP instead of a captive system. Other ISPs
would allow individual users to block mail or just block the address for the
complaining user.
I'll repeat this message every few days to give more people the opportunity to
read it on the web site since it's not going out to AOL/Yahoo account
holders.
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE ON THE LIST
--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Independent
Magazine" (AIM)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:43:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] CA Desert Javelin
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060423144341.55353.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
I just got back from a trip to retrieve a 1970 Big Bad
Orange Javelin from a desert junkyard near Barstow,
CA. The car has been sitting for a long time in the
desert sunshine. The paint is faded, parts are
missing, but it has a very sound body with no
structural rust. 304/auto, manual drum brakes, manual
steering. Missing radiator, fan, carb (the engine is
probably full of sand). All soft interior parts will
need to be replaced/restored. No steering wheel or
console/shifter. Needs a winshield and driver's side
door glass. Needs some body work due to dents. Grill
broken. Front bumper mangled. I had to bring my own
tires and wheels since it had been sitting on the
hubs. Makes me wonder what wheels were on it
(probably magnum 500s). It's not an SST, and has the
brushed aluminum dash cover which should clean up
well. The last sticker on the license plate said
1974, but some stickers could have been peeled off.
It is an early production car with a body number less
than 3,000. It's date of manf. was August 1969.
I did not take my camera this weekend but will have
pictures in a few weeks. The car will be for sale
since I already have enough projects. The car sounds
like it is in pretty bad shape in the first paragraph
right? If you have ever wrestled with saving a rusty
car, you would be delighted with this one. I don't
ususally hype my cars, but this car really has
potential. If you are interested, just email me and I
will send pics when I next get to my storage building.
Regards,
Joe Fulton
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:59:23 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] IMPORTANT FOR ALL AOL, YAHOO, and HOTMAIL
ACCOUNT USERS!!!
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
Frank, you must mean Yahoomail because I get the list through Hotmail no
problem. Hotmail and MSN mail are owned by MSN.
Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73
J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] WPC Shows?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060423145936.59506.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Bob asked:
What's the current thinking (and experience) on this
list about
participating in Mopar shows?
I'm considering bringing my '68 Ambassador to the
Walter P. Chrysler show
in Elmhurst, IL. next Sunday. It's no award-winner or
10-point
restoration, but it's been rebuilt and restored to
good condition...and
it's spring, and I'd like to start hitting a show or
two in the Chicagoland
area.
I know that Chrysler corporate was no friend (to put
it mildly) to AMC'ers
in the way they handled the takeover of AMC and the
closing of the Kenosha
plant. But I'm more curious about the current
reception/attitude among
Mopar hobbyists towards AMCs.
Advice and experiences are welcome; flames re-hashing
Chrysler's crimes
against AMC are not. Thanks!
_____________________
Well, I have never been to the Chrysler Club Spring
Fling held each April (last weekend this year) in
southern California, but the SoCal AMX Club members
have displayed their cars there for the last couple of
years and there is a special class for AMC cars. The
feedback on their mailing list has been good.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:39:31 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] FW: Rambler Ventshades - help with part numbers
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List)
Cc: rapidron1@xxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<042320061539.19526.444B9FB3000BD16B00004C4621602813020E029D0E00@xxxxxxx>
I recently bought a set of vent shades from Ron Kinter for my 63 Classic. He's got more, and needs help with some part numbers. I bought a 67-72 parts book on CD, but the Accessories group numbers stop at 15.320 in my book -- Vent Shades are in Group 15.420. If anyone can help identify these part numbers please contact Ron, I'm sure he'll give you a good deal on a set for the help. If someone has the missing pages for my parts book, I'd appreciate scans myself!
For anyone interested in a CD copy of the parts book, contact kolenich@xxxxxxxxxxxx That's who I purchased mine from a couple years ago.
--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Independent
Magazine" (AIM)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)
-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "Ronald Kinter" <rapidron1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Rambler Ventshades
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:53:09 +0000
> Hi Frank,
> I know you are probably a very busy man but I was wondering if you could
> help me out identifying some of these ventshades that I have.
> I have a book but it only goes to 1965.
> The following are the ones I need help with:
> 8993404, 8993294, 8993651, 8992608, 8992610, 8991067, 8991068, 8991069.
> If you know where I can purchase a parts book to cover 1969 and up that
> would be a big help also.
> If you can't or don't have the time, I will understand.
> Thanks,
> Ron
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:01:23 -0700
From: "Ross Guistino" <rossg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] WPC Shows?
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <000b01c666ef$2b2cc8d0$6501a8c0@spabbq>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The reason our Club, The NorCal AMCs, exist is because the big club up here
in Northern California, which shall remain unnamed, treated us as second
class citizens. So our founding President decided to start his own
gathering. Unfortunately he could not keep it going as he has to relocate,
but I became President and held meetings and gatherings for almost 4 years
before handing off the gavel to another AMC enthusiast. Our Club is small
but we have a good time. We have been in Mopar shows and find the reception
from the crowd is good. Would we ever become part of the big club again? I
think not.
Ross Guistino
Newsletter Editor, Past President
NorCal AMCs
'73 Gremlin 304 aka Vivo
'75 Gremlin X aka Greta
'93 Jetta with 250K+ miles
'98 Diesel Jetta
'02 Diesel Jetta
'69 Beetle
-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of JOE FULTON
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:00 AM
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] WPC Shows?
Bob asked:
What's the current thinking (and experience) on this list about
participating in Mopar shows?
I'm considering bringing my '68 Ambassador to the Walter P. Chrysler show in
Elmhurst, IL. next Sunday. It's no award-winner or 10-point restoration,
but it's been rebuilt and restored to good condition...and it's spring, and
I'd like to start hitting a show or two in the Chicagoland area.
I know that Chrysler corporate was no friend (to put it mildly) to AMC'ers
in the way they handled the takeover of AMC and the closing of the Kenosha
plant. But I'm more curious about the current reception/attitude among
Mopar hobbyists towards AMCs.
Advice and experiences are welcome; flames re-hashing Chrysler's crimes
against AMC are not. Thanks!
_____________________
Well, I have never been to the Chrysler Club Spring Fling held each April
(last weekend this year) in southern California, but the SoCal AMX Club
members have displayed their cars there for the last couple of years and
there is a special class for AMC cars. The feedback on their mailing list
has been good.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:50:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Matador Coupe Parts Needed
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20060423165031.25437.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Met a guy this weekend who needs a driver's side
window and tail light lens for a Matador Coupe. If
you know of a source please email me with your contact
information and I will put him in touch with you by
phone. He does not have internet access.
Thanks,
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:19:52 -0600
From: Jim Shadwick <idahoamx@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Showing at WPC Show?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxx
Message-ID: <444BB738.704@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Bob.....
I would go for it.....I am in the local MOPAR club and the only active
AMCer and was voted president for this year....
I got an AMC class at our yearly show started two years ago....everyone
in the club are really nice....we have a mix
of show cars and racers......go to the show....there will be other
AMCers there.........both of the AMC shows I went to
last year had Mopar classes...... http://www.moparsunlimitedofidaho.com/
enjoy....Jim
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:27:40 -0700
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AOL
To: amc-list <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1145813259.12111.10.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 06:52, Rml0008@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Are other members having trouble with AOL delivering their AMC list
> mail?
AOL has blocked all mail from my server; they make smallish servers like
mine meet a higher, near-impossible standard. No spam or virus has ever
issued from here. When we moved the list there were a number of defunct
AOL email addresses (people who had signed up then disappeared) and they
blocked us. (The complainers didn't help.)
It's part of a larger corporate takeover of the internet; Verizon, AOL
and others are talking openly about charging sites to deliver bits into
"their" customers (eg. you). We're too small to do that, so it will kill
off small sites and force them to move websites, mailing lists, etc to
the larger service providers, like (surprise!) AOL, which is the real
intent; hey, nothing personal, just profiteering.
Think I sound crazy? Wait five years and ask again. The internet is
completely unregulated, and this is the obvious result.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:54:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] V8 Gremlin axle setup for sale
To: cadipacer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200604231854.k3NIscR10434@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" Cc: cadipacer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
"
" SALE; V8 Gremlin Axle assy set up for coil springs for use in the 58-66
" Classics,
" []
" this is a extra unit I had made when I installed the 401 in the 62
" Classic.. been in my car for 11 years, works good. 502-964-4328 aft 5 phil
" amin cadipacer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
" ======================================
not in the market, just curious - how good a width match was it to the
original?
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:56:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 77 AMX leaf springs wanted
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx, vegadan@xxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200604231856.k3NIuFx10458@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
"
" I am looking for a good pair of 4-leaf leaf springs for my 77 amx hornet.
" Please send me an email at vegadan@xxxxxxxxx with details and price
" including shipping to the 60188 zip code. Thanks, dan
" ==========================================
" anyone that can help Dan please give him a shout above thanks. Dan, my
" suggestion would be to buy new ones from either ESPO or Detroit Eaton both
" on my vendors list. You don't want to put used on there!
i agree. i also don't understand why he wouldn't want the 5-leaf set
for an amx.
________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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