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- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:05:28 -0800
Topics covered in this issue include:
1: Re: Last chance
by Wolfgang Mederle <amclist2006@xxxxxxx>
2: 74 Hornet Headlight Switch & Fuel Gauge
by AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
3: Re: 1975-1977 258 Heads
by farna@xxxxxxx
4: '62 Rambler loss of habitat - details, pics available
by Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
5: Virus intercepted
by MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
6: '62 Rambler loss of habitat - title location known...
by Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
7: Re: 74 Hornet Headlight Switch & Fuel Gauge
by farna@xxxxxxx
8: 2007 Jeep Compass
by farna@xxxxxxx
9: rambler mentality day on ebay
by "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
10: 66 American brake problem
by "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
11: brake problem
by "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
12: brake problem
by "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
13: Re: brake problem
by adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
14: Re: 2007 Jeep Compass
by adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
15: Re: jeeps [was: 1975-1977 258 Heads]
by adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
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From: Wolfgang Mederle <amclist2006@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Last chance
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:44:43 +0100
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
On 24.02.2006, at 23:58, Mahoney, John wrote:
> Why haven't any Pacer experts dug deep to write about AMC, GM,
> Porsche 928, and Tony Lapine? For heaven's sake, a new 928 will be
> on sale in 2010, but an in-depth AMC design story still hasn't been
> told! Where are the lovers and experts? It's not as if the
> General's been hiding his AMC history resources under a big Pacer
> fish bowl.
Well, this ball is rolling. Stay tuned, in about six weeks I'll
hopefully get the facts about this from someone who knows them like
noone else, and if I'm lucky I'll be able to gather other interesting
tidbits as well. I'm really excited about this!
Wolfgang
--
Wolfgang Mederle
Munich, Bavaria (Germany)
AIM therealmadearl * Jabber madearl@xxxxxxxxxxxx * GPG key id E8EF7E7F
<URL:http://www.american-motors.de/>
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From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:41:04 -0500
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx, BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 74 Hornet Headlight Switch & Fuel Gauge
Message-ID: <17590-440436D0-7960@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I think I have my courtesy light problem figured out. I think it is in
the headlight switch. I had the whole interior apart and checked all the
wiring and door jam switches and found nothing wrong. I installed the
new interior and left the fuel gauge and courtesy light problem for this
coming spring. I just noticed the other day for the first time I have
driven this car at night since I bought it 2 1/2 years ago that when I
tried to adjust the strength of the inst. lights they wont dim or
brighten so I believe the switch is bad. My question is before I pull
the dash apart to install another switch is will a switch from an 82
Spirit work? The Spirit had the high beam switch on the steering column
if that makes any difference. Also on the gas gauge problem will a gauge
out of Gremlin work? What year did they change the ohm rating on the
fuel gauges? It is embarrassing to have such a nice looking car that I
have to check the fuel with a 36 inch 3/8 wooden dowel. :-( These 2
items are the last 2 things I need to finish my interior job. I am
psyched as today the windows get tinted a light smoke color. It should
even make the orange body color stand out more. I gave up on the subtle
look.
"Doc"
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:07:34 -0500
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 1975-1977 258 Heads
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <ADVANCES62x8dyDd3OJ0000003c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
YES.
Shaft rockers from 64-72, bridged for 73 and very early 74, back to shaft for 74 (due to a patent dispute with Buick over the bridged design), then back to bridged in 1975-2006. It's possible that some early 75 production would have shaft rockers, but I'm willing to risk saying 80%+ had bridged.
It's my understanding that no 2007 models will have the 4.0L, 2006 will be the last year of production. It's only used in the Wrangler now, but it's stock in all but the SE model, so I'm not so sure 06 will be the last year.
They'd be wise to keep the 4.0L in the Wrangler, and make a four door and pickup version as well. That would give Chrysler a rugged fleet/trail vehicle cheap. The problem is there aren't any large number of sales for fleet vehicles like that, and a four door could take away Liberty sales. I really don't think so, as long as they kept it a little on the rugged side. Yuppies and soccer moms buy Liberties, and I don't think they'd be interested in something a bit less comfortable at any price. Heck, instead of dressing it up, they should offer stripped down models. Might make it more attractive to buy for trails instead of building an older model Cherokee, at least for light trail running.
On February 27, 2006 JOE B FULTON wrote:
> Were the 258 cylinders heads the same design between
> 1975 and 1977? Did both heads have bridged rocker
> arms?
>
> Regards,
> Joe Fulton
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Message-ID: <20060228131457.53002.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:14:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: '62 Rambler loss of habitat - details, pics available
To: AMC-List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
The car is a 2-door sedan, goldish color, aluminum
232 engine block. Car did run 7 years ago. Rust in
rear unibody frame, otherwise was a nice car. I think
one rear quarter had some creasing, don't remember.
Make a nice street rod project. Car should be
complete. Can't guarantee there are no bullet holes in
it, hunters have used some cars down there for target
practice, I think this one is free of extra holes,
though.
Again, time is critical, I have no control over when
they all have to be gone. Also, I am not sure where
the title is, I'll ask my club prez, he said it was ok
to deal on this car. Maybe he knows. I'll post that
info when I find out.
Jerry in Virginia, '62 car in Nottoway County /
Burkeville, VA
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 04:27:41 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <200602281227.k1SCRfLa001535@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Virus intercepted
A message you sent to
<mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
contained HTML.Phishing.Pay-70 and has not been delivered.
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:21:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: '62 Rambler loss of habitat - title location known...
To: AMC-List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Ok, no sooner had I sent the LAST email, than I got
one from the prez who sez he has it. So there is a
good title for it in hand. So, anyone needing more
info or the pics, let me know, thanks!
Jerry Casper
gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:33:30 -0500
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 74 Hornet Headlight Switch & Fuel Gauge
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <ADVANCES62A1XvpFVjC0000003e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
The light switch from the 82 will work, you might have to change connectors though. They are all spade terminals, so if you cna't get the 82 connector it won't be a problem to crimp or solder terminals to the wires in your car.
The fuel gauge changed around 77 or 78, so that won't work. Are you sure it's the gauge and not the sender or wire? Pull the wire from near the tank and ground it. The gauge should go to above full. If it does, the gauge and wire (at least from the point you grounded forward) is good. If it goes up but not all the way to full, you have a bad voltage regulator. The regulator is made into the fuel gauge on the small cars, so the gauge has to be replaced.
The alternative is to pull the cluster and do some surgery on the gauge. Once the gague is out and apart you can see the old "vibrator" voltage regulator. You can cut that out or just connect a wire running out of the gauge to the gauge side of the old regulator, by passing it. Then use a solid state regulator like this: http://www.wps.com/AMC/dashreg/index.html. Connections will be different, and you may have to cut a trace on the circuit board leading into the fuel gauge, but it will work much better. If the temp and gas gauge are reading low the regulator is usually the culprit. Be careful cutting traces -- the temp gauge gets its power from that same regulator.
On February 28, 2006 Mr. AMC wrote:
> I think I have my courtesy light problem figured out. I think it is in
> the headlight switch. I had the whole interior apart and checked all the
> wiring and door jam switches and found nothing wrong. I installed the
> new interior and left the fuel gauge and courtesy light problem for this
> coming spring. I just noticed the other day for the first time I have
> driven this car at night since I bought it 2 1/2 years ago that when I
> tried to adjust the strength of the inst. lights they wont dim or
> brighten so I believe the switch is bad. My question is before I pull
> the dash apart to install another switch is will a switch from an 82
> Spirit work? The Spirit had the high beam switch on the steering column
> if that makes any difference. Also on the gas gauge problem will a gauge
> out of Gremlin work? What year did they change the ohm rating on the
> fuel gauges? It is embarrassing to have such a nice looking car that I
> have to check the fuel with a 36 inch 3/8 wooden dowel. :-( These 2
> items are the last 2 things I need to finish my interior job. I am
> psyched as today the windows get tinted a light smoke color. It should
> even make the orange body color stand out more. I gave up on the subtle
> look.
> "Doc"
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:03:16 -0500
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: 2007 Jeep Compass
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <ADVANCES62ix4A2DreB00000041@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Go to www.jeep.com and take a look! Think Ford Escape, but I like the looks better. Maybe that's because they borrowed the rear end styling from the Gremlin? Once you see a side view, I'm sure you guys will think the same! 2.4L FWD standard, 4WD available. Specs read just like the Escape. No larger engine listed as available, but I suspect the small V-6 will be later.
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From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: rambler mentality day on ebay
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:38:35 -0600
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From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC LIST" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 66 American brake problem
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:02:34 -0500
Hey guys, I started to do a brake job on the front of my 66 American and
ran into a roadblock. it seems I have the Bendix type brakes but I have
never seen the setup that is on the car. The brake adjuster "cable" is a
pair of rods hooked to a bolt screwed into the primary shoe. Of course, the
NAPA replacement shoes don't have the threaded hole for that mess and the
springs that return the shoes to "rest" at the top of the shoes actually
hook onto a small tab sticking out of the shoes, not into a hole in the shoe
frame. The retainer pins are held on by some spring steel square clips. That
is not a problem, or doesn't seem to be.
Has anyone solved this problem before and willing to tell me what I need to
do? The car is all torn down, the drums turned, wheel bearings all replaced
and packed with grease. I haven't looked at the rear wheel brakes yet, but
I assume I will run into the same situation.
Jay in FL.
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From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC LIST" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: brake problem
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:30:22 -0500
More info on my brake situation. I want to convert my WAGNER brakes to
Bendix. I looked more closely at my IPC and it shows the 199 engine cars
with Bendix and the 232 01/10 cars with Wagners.
Jay
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From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC LIST" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: brake problem
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:58:00 -0500
OK, I made another mistake, I said the adjuster was on the PRimary shoe, it
should have been on the secondary shoe. NAPA stocks the Bendix shoes for
$13.00/set (FRNT) and the AMC Vendors have both types but want $40 and up
for either type. What goes here?
Jay
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:07:32 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <200602281807.k1SI7WQ26392@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: brake problem
" From: "Jay" <jciampi@xxxxxxxx>
"
" More info on my brake situation. I want to convert my WAGNER brakes to
" Bendix. I looked more closely at my IPC and it shows the 199 engine cars
" with Bendix and the 232 01/10 cars with Wagners.
if you're going to go that far, may i humbly suggest you go 10"? get
the fronts from someone converting a jav or amx v8 to disk and the
rears from a late-'70s/early-'80s amx six or concord wagon.
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Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:14:00 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <200602281814.k1SIE0Q26409@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 2007 Jeep Compass
" From: farna@xxxxxxx
"
" Go to www.jeep.com and take a look! Think Ford Escape, but I like the
" looks better. Maybe that's because they borrowed the rear end styling
" from the Gremlin? Once you see a side view, I'm sure you guys will
" think the same! 2.4L FWD standard, 4WD available. Specs read just like
" the Escape. No larger engine listed as available, but I suspect the
" small V-6 will be later.
this is a jeep in name only, on a platform shared with the dodge
neon-replacement. it will be the first jeep platform that is not
trail rated. [yes, the gc srt isn't, bot other gc models are]
btw, dodge is also considering floating the hornet name again...
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Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:22:20 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <200602281822.k1SIMKI26445@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jeeps [was: 1975-1977 258 Heads]
" From: farna@xxxxxxx
"
"
" It's my understanding that no 2007 models will have the 4.0L, 2006 will
" be the last year of production. It's only used in the Wrangler now, but
" it's stock in all but the SE model, so I'm not so sure 06 will be the
" last year.
it is. the all-new, wider '07 wrangler comes with v6 power only.
" They'd be wise to keep the 4.0L in the Wrangler, and make a four door
" and pickup version as well.
they're working on a 4dr. they had a show truck at detroit this
month.
" That would give Chrysler a rugged fleet/trail vehicle cheap.
not really. the v6 is probably cheaper now since it's used on more
models and shares parts and probably production with the 4.7 v8.
" The problem is there aren't any large number
" of sales for fleet vehicles like that, and a four door could take away
" Liberty sales. I really don't think so, as long as they kept it a little
" on the rugged side. Yuppies and soccer moms buy Liberties, and I don't
" think they'd be interested in something a bit less comfortable at any
" price. Heck, instead of dressing it up, they should offer stripped down
" models. Might make it more attractive to buy for trails instead of
" building an older model Cherokee, at least for light trail running.
yeah, except the bulk of car unit profits are in the options...
imho it's be more cost-effective to make a ruggedized liberty than a
stretched 4dr wrangler.
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Andrew Hay the genius nature
internet rambler is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought
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