mail Digest for 28 Feb 2006 in hour 0:00

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Topics covered in this issue include:

    1: Re: better than barrett jackson!
              by Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    2: Re: 1975-1977 258 Heads
              by adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
    3: re: more on fee-bay scams
              by "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:08:30 -0600
From: Todd Tomason <jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: better than barrett jackson!
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-id: <200602272108.30867.jayscore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Eddie,

How are you spotting the scam auctions?  What gives them away?

Todd

On Monday 27 February 2006 21:06, Eddie Stakes wrote:
> Wow these scam auctions are really getting out of hand, here is yet another
> six auctions tossed up quickly by a scammer at this email address:
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:08:50 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <200602280308.k1S38oS24541@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 1975-1977 258 Heads

" From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" Were the 258 cylinders heads the same design between
" 1975 and 1977?  Did both heads have bridged rocker
" arms?

they had the same valve gear, but in '77 the chamber was increased
from 66cc to 74cc and iirc compression dropped from 8.5:1 to 8:1.
pistons were also changed and i think they must have -smaller- dishes
than previously.
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Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
internet rambler                            is to see what all have seen
adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought


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Message-ID: <04ab01c63c31$37133eb0$7633ce44@piageedc1iqa5q>
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: re: more on fee-bay scams
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:32:58 -0600

Todd asked how I know these are scam auctions. One is that people are 
calling and emailing me when they see something too good to be true. That 
black AMX was sold a few months ago on ebay. The blue AMX earlier tonight 
was sold only three days ago and jixxa-mixer was the high bidder and won the 
car at $13K. The dumbass scammers I guess figured no one, much less AMCers 
would notice.

Ironically those scam auctions were all shut down earlier tonight....and as 
the scammer used someone else's ID, hijacked it (more on this later) and 
quickly shoved those samed damned auctions back up. So since I asked, and 
got, a increase in my bidding limit from ebay :~P I decided to smack these 
auctions also, but not for $99 million, but under a million each. Only in 
strip clubs do I normally throw that type of money around you know.

Here is the black AMX I earlier paid $99 million for, this time was bargain.
Your maximum bid:     US $999,999.00
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Details for item number:  4617392708
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  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4617392708

Datsun : Z-Series
Your current bid:     US $3,550.00
Your maximum bid:     US $999,999.00
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Details for item number:  4617392709
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4617392709
I know it is a old Datsun, but always have liked them.

  DeSoto
Your current bid:     US $2,550.89
Your maximum bid:     US $999,999.00
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Details for item number:  4617392704
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 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4617392704
Firedome, firedome, I could walk around saying that all day, it describes 
how I attempt to operate a torch. And Texas is under a fire ban.

Austin Healey
Your current bid:     US $5,200.00
Your maximum bid:     US $999,999.00
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Details for item number:  4617392705
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 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4617392705
It is a Healey, and in a strange way, related to AMC viv Nash I guess.

 $1,025.00
Your maximum bid:     US $999,999.00
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4617392707
Always have had a real soft spot for these old 1930s Cords, never thought I 
would actually own one either. I might have paid too much.

DeLorean
Your current bid:     US $104.50
Your maximum bid:     US $999,999.00
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Details for item number:  4617392712
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4617392712
Always have liked these too, and used to hang with a fellow in Corpus 
Christi who had one and it was painted Red. Only one I have ever seen 
painted, not sure how they got the paint to stick, but sure could get the 
girls with this baby. And those girls had all their teeth.

Back to how you can spot these. Usually they have a ridiculous 'buy it now' 
price, but usually not in the auction, but in description. Look at the Cord, 
$9000 BIN price. give me a break, $9000 is in the paint alone that is 
probably a $100K car. Check out the AMX since ya'll are AMCers. (providing 
these auctions have not been shut down yet) but that AMX has quite a mill, 
but a BIN price of $5400 which would cover the paint job, or a good engine 
build and if you look at that engine the 'real' sellers had some bucks in 
it.

The big kicker is the sellers wanting potential bidders to email them first. 
Once you email them they have your email address and drop the bomb like "ok, 
I'll take your high offer on it, you can paypal me (or VISA, Amex, Discover, 
MC ect) the funds, I will hold the car but send title" or other line of 
crap. You also see this in rare parts auctions.

And it is not anything new, I can recall a Hemmings Motor News warning about 
a seller in their pages who was contacting people looking for rare Mopar 
parts in the 1990s. Very knowledgeable, knew descriptions, part numbers. 
They also ripped people off for over $100K out of Reno, NV. And I don't 
think they were ever caught either.

No, I ain't ebay police! Yes, I enjoy running up scammers auctions in 
between changing daipers, cooking and watching those fools on Celebrity 
Dancing or whatever Paige was watching in there.

So since I started this email, this is one of six TKO's that just came in:
The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding:

Item Number - 4617392712

Item Title - DeLorean

Our records show that you placed a bid on this item. We removed this item 
from the Site and cancelled your bid because it appears that the seller's 
account has been compromised and used by an unauthorized third party. The 
seller's privileges to trade on eBay may be temporarily suspended while we 
investigate this matter further. Due to privacy concerns we will not be able 
to share further details related to this seller.

If the seller asks you to complete this transaction outside of eBay, we 
strongly recommend that you do not proceed with the transaction and do not 
respond to the seller. Transactions for items listed on eBay but then 
completed off of the eBay platform are not covered by buyer protection 
programs offered by eBay and can be highly indicative of fraud. For more 
information on Offers to Buy or Sell Outside of eBay, copy and past the 
following Help Page link into your browser: 
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html.

If you have already paid for this item but have not received it, you should 
take all possible steps to receive reimbursement.

1. Stop payment with your bank if you paid by check.
2. Contact the Security Department of your credit card company to file a 
chargeback if you paid via credit card.
3. If you paid via Western Union or MoneyGram, contact the company directly 
(Western Union 800-325-6000 or MoneyGram 800-926-9400).
4. If you paid with PayPal, you may be eligible for up to $1,000 USD 
coverage at no cost. To file a claim with PayPal, login to your PayPal 
account and copy and paste the following link into your web browser: 
/csg/p?www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/protections-buyer-outside. 
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the File a Claim link. 
PayPal claims must be filed within 45 days of the close of the listing. It 
may take at least 30 days to complete the investigation and resolve the 
dispute.
5. If you did not pay with PayPal and would like to file a claim with eBay, 
please initiate the Item Not Received Process online directly from the 
Security and Resolution Center at the bottom of the eBay.com page.
6. eBay claims must be filed within 60 days of the end of the listing.

Our goal is to ensure that your eBay experience is safe so that you can buy 
confidently. It is rare that something goes wrong with a transaction on 
eBay.  However, in the event it does, we would like to provide as much 
assistance as possible to help resolve the issue.

Regardless, it don't matter. On the six auctions the scammer listed, there 
was 41 'bidders' and chances are all of them, except me, got a 'direct 
email' from the scammers seeing if they would send them the money for the 
ficticious vehicle in the auction. Remember, all it takes is ONE person to 
send the money not knowing and they lose their asses for thousands of 
dollars.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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