I believe Ben D. from NorCal previously mentioned the free Rambler Americans on the craigslist site here in the Bay Area. I have seen both of these cars and even if they were priced at a few hundred dollars they would be worth the money. I believe the owner only had to Rambler Americans (which were for sale a few months ago, and now are being give away). If that is the case, then the 63 hardtop he is advertising is the 63 440H hardtop with air conditioning that I looked at and photographed. I passed on the car (at $300) because I just did not have room for another project at the time (and still don't). I posted to the list about this car. It was originally a pink/white car with the gray/black interior I think. I don't remember whether it has the twin stick or not. The 61/62 2-door sedan I believe was the owner's daily driver for a couple of years. It might need an engine overhaul and has been parked awhile but has been in his carport/garage. The owner is a real fan of the old Ramblers and I know will be hesitant to junk them, so please get the word out and let's find these cars a good home. Joe Fulton Salinas, CA