" From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) " " " From: "L. D. Lyons" <ldlyons@xxxxxxxxxxx> " " " " " " " " gotta Jeep question, was looking at an 85 waggoner today, The guy said " " it had a chevy V6 in it, and it came from the factory that way. During " " our conversation he mentioned it had something to do with GM getting " " designs frtom Jeep when they aquired AM General. If someone pout there " " knows any thing about this I would sure appreciate some info " " the waggie never had any kind of v6 in it ever, gm or otherwise. i was referring here to the full-size wagoneer, the sj series. " From: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> " " Sorry, You are incorrect on this. " In 86 and 87, maybe a year sooner and later, Jeep XJ came in a model " designated "Wagoneer". It had four real small funky expensive stacked " headlights and mono colored red taillights and woodgrain trim. It was " their top of the line XJ. This is most likely the "Wagoneer" that was " looked at and if it was an 86 model it would indeed have had the V-6 " in it. " - " Mark Price i knew about the xj waggie! just not when it appeared; i thought it was later. an '86 would indeed explain this situation. " From: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> " " GM doesn't own AM General. Or at least they don't own a controlling " interest -- I think they may have bought into it a few years ago. What " they DID "buy", or rather contract for, was use of the Hummer name and " sales/support of the H1. AMG still makes the H1, GM handles sales and " maintenance of the few that are made. GM also licensed the Hummer name " for their smaller, more practical H2 and H3. ...which are made in gm's own plants, out of gm-sourced parts, and owing nothing but their names to the original am general humvee. " The pre 86 2.8L was known for rear oil seal leaks. If you're getting a " great deal on it and it doesn't leak, it's okay. It will drive about " like a newer EFI four cylinder model. You can replace the engine " directly with a Jeep or GM four, or a 3.1L or 3.4L GM V-6. Those will " bolt directly to the trans and the drivetrain will take the power. " Nothing bigger will bolt up, and if it did you'd likely have " transmission trouble shortly. Another option, if the V-6 is in good " condition. Is to pull the EFI from a 2.8-3.4L V-6 Camaro and drop that " on. That will be a 20+ hp increase and better mileage. i believe '87-up s10 2.8s also have efi, maybe mpi, and afaik you'll need an '87-up s10 2.8 flywheel for either the 3.1 or 3.4 as all these post-'87 little v6s are internally balanced, unlike the jeeps' earlier model. a camaro flywheel is too thick and won't work. there are indeed bigger engines that will bolt up - since the early '80s, many of gm's engines have been made with the 2.8's bolt pattern, including iron dukes, buick 3800s, northstar v8s... but frank is right, the 5-spd isn't up to much more. the auto, which oddly with the gm engine is a tf909, can handle more but its converter won't bolt to a gm flexplate straight off. 3.4s are adapted by knocking the balance weight off the jeep 2.8 flexplate and using it. btw there's a gm 3.4 crate longblock made expressly for replacing early-'80s 2.8s in s10s, and it has been used in xjs too. it's possible the 5sp could be beefed - if a complete tranny swap wouldn't be $$ better spent. it's an aisin warner ax5, related to the toyota g and w series, though exactly where it compares i'm not sure. i've heard it relates to the toyota g52 and of someone using the ax5 input in a much-stronger w56, but nothing definite. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought