Re: bellhousings

[adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)]

" From: "Ian Cudmore" <yahootoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
" 
" <snip> all manual bells are not the same.  in later years there was a
"    multi-pattern bell that took [almost] all the transmissions, but
"    there are also single-pattern ones.
" 
" how can i tell this wonderfull T5 friendly bell form the others whilst 
" crawling under numerous veh at the wreckers? a handy part number visible 
" from above, beside or below?

if it's hooked to a sr4, t4, or t5 already it'll be obvious.  if it's
got a t150 or t176/7/8 i dunno.

a note - the sr4/t4/t5-only bell has a smaller retainer hole than the
mustang t5 needs.  you could use an amc or i think gm t5 retainer,
turn the ford retainer down, or mill the bellhousing hole out in this
case.  the multipattern bells have to take the t150 which has the
larger retainer already.  iirc the t17x 4sp do too.

" Problem is - here on Vancouver Island AMC's are rare enough even as an auto 
" - finding one *for parts* with an intact tranny, bell, clutch fork etc is 
" even worse. i wonder what jeeps i might be able to salvage from? i know some 
" cherokees came with a 5speed. i dont think it was the t5 - an ax5? does that 
" use the same bell?

nope.  '80s cjs should have it; they had sr4s and t5s.  '80s fsjs might
even have the multipattern with t170-family 4sp but i don't know.
late-'70s-up amcs with 4sp or 5sp will have it.

" <snip>i repeat, a later bell cannot be used with your '71 engine.  the block
" bolt pattern is completely different. and remember, there are several later 
" bells; not all are multi-pattern or have the sr4/t4/t5 pattern
" 
" no, this bell is to be for my 77 engine (and eventualy for a 4.0). i was 
" hoping to use the 71 bell as i ASSUMEd that it would be the same patern as 
" the later ones, and since i had it already....
" i'm sure the later bells that fit the sr4/t4/t5 will fit my 232? my intent 
" is to swap in a t5 before i get onto the whole stroker thing, as this is my 
" daily driver. and i'm sure we all know what a drain on the pocket book it 
" can be everytime one walks into a parts store or the junkers... though it 
" will most likely wait and be both done at the same time - just such a time 
" saver

just to be clear - that's a '77 232?  yes, all '72-up bells swap
between 232, 258, and 4.0.  and i think in '77 you could get your 232
with a sr4 - or was that 258-only then?
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