A: The FSJs got a T-5 behind the 6 cyl '80 to '85. (only pickups so far) Advanced Adapters (I think. Could be Novak) actually sells a bellhousing to bolt one up. They also sell a beefed up version of the T-5 brand new. The 4 speed used after '79 is T176 but V8s still got a T18 or T18A (4:1 and 6:1 first gear respectively) The AX-15 didn't start till '90ish (4WD was 21 spline output till 08/90 then 23 spline for the HO. 2WD though is the same for all years) Before that was the BA 10/5 (I'll sell mine pretty soon. I need to yank it for my 4x4 automatic conversion but it's fine other than that. Complete with hydraulic clutch and flywheel assembly for $100, but it's in Seattle.) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: bellhousings " From: "Ian Cudmore" <yahootoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> " " <snip> all manual bells are not the same. in later years there was a " multi-pattern bell that took [almost] all the transmissions, but " there are also single-pattern ones. " " how can i tell this wonderfull T5 friendly bell form the others whilst " crawling under numerous veh at the wreckers? a handy part number visible " from above, beside or below? if it's hooked to a sr4, t4, or t5 already it'll be obvious. if it's got a t150 or t176/7/8 i dunno. a note - the sr4/t4/t5-only bell has a smaller retainer hole than the mustang t5 needs. you could use an amc or i think gm t5 retainer, turn the ford retainer down, or mill the bellhousing hole out in this case. the multipattern bells have to take the t150 which has the larger retainer already. iirc the t17x 4sp do too. " Problem is - here on Vancouver Island AMC's are rare enough even as an auto " - finding one *for parts* with an intact tranny, bell, clutch fork etc is " even worse. i wonder what jeeps i might be able to salvage from? i know some " cherokees came with a 5speed. i dont think it was the t5 - an ax5? does that " use the same bell? nope. '80s cjs should have it; they had sr4s and t5s. '80s fsjs might even have the multipattern with t170-family 4sp but i don't know. late-'70s-up amcs with 4sp or 5sp will have it. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought