Re: VIN again

[Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>]

Sorry to extend this thread, but...

First off, intent matters. While technically illegal, I would
switch VINs between two otherwise non-descript (to DMV and the
collector world) cars to save the good one, the earlier example of
two Gremlins is a good one, where you're reviving cars that would
be junked otherwise, hell regardless of law you're improving the
AMC world.

Second, the tags come off, and the tags go on. I took the VIN tag
off my 1970 Hornet dash in order to paint it. I re-installed it
with pop-rivets.  BFD. There's no intent to deceive; if some
secret-agent laboratory were to disassemble my car, they'd find
it.

Now on very late-model cars with high theft rates, say, like a
2005 Accord, tampered VINs and tag would be a BIG scary red flag
without proper documentation like massive insurance repairs, etc.
But in 2035, probably no one will care if you build one good
Accord from two rusty ones by switching tags.

Intent matters. Human laws are not laws of physics.




On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Andre K Jacobs wrote:

> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:23:50 -0500
> From: Andre K Jacobs <akjamc@xxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: mail-From-tomj-wps.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: VIN again
>
> Frank
> If you take a VIN tag off a car, you have just TAMPERED with it. The VIN
> and door tags are held in place by "rosette" rivets. These are security
> rivets, that are NOT supposed to fall in to the general public hands,
> WHY, because IF you take the numbers off of a car and put it on another
> one, you would have to attach the tag with something other then the
> special rivets, cop sees that, he knows the VIN has been TAMPERED with,
> and WHY would anybody do that. Stolen car...........???? Like I said
> before, I don't know all the laws on it, and yes they do rebody cars all
> the time, and yes people get away with it, BUT there are legal issues
> here. V.I.N. = vehicle IDENTIFICATION number. You could call this
> identity theft!  Just like using a fake name, now go to the courts and
> have it LEGALLY changed.
>
> Andre " A.J." Jacobs,
> web page http://southtexasamc.tripod.com
> (830)-980-3165 , akjamc@xxxxxxxx
>
> Owner & Proprietor, South Texas AMC

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