Re: DID ANYONE ON THE LIST IN THE BAY AREA LOOK AT THIS CAR?

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A better/easier idea for a driver using that American would be a Jeep 2.5L four and five speed. They used a 4.11 rear gear though. A 1980 Spirit 2.5L/4spd combo used a 3.08 axle, but I doubt that would give good performance. The American should perform just a bit better than a Cherokee -- my 63 Classic is about the equivalent in weight and frontal area nad performs about like a Cherokee does. So you should be able to get great performance with a 4.11 axle, and should be able to use a 3.73 or something similar and still get good performance and a bit better mileage. The American might work with a 3.08, but I'd go lower. To high a ratio will have negative results on mileage and performance. 

On June 10, 2005 Jim Boone wrote:

> On June 9, 2005 andrew hay wrote:
> 
> > one thing hits me - clutch size.  you'd have a challenge getting 300hp
> > through a 9 1/8" disk!  and the 196 flywheel isn't drilled for
> > anything bigger.  it is the same size as the '64-'70 though, so if
> > it's thick enough in the right places it could be drilled.  they have
> > the 10"/10.5" pattern.
> >
> > hmmm...  maybe the flywheels are similar enough that an early 199/232
> > one would bolt on without much work...
> 
> 
> Well, it's just a dream anyway.  My mind works OT on such things but it's hard to make it reality when life gets in the way.
> 
> However, one such thought would be to use extra-heavy pressure plate (as in spring pressure) that would give the smaller disk more bite, then overcome the pedal feel by using/adapting a hydraulic clutch setup.  300 hp isn't all that much really if you think about it.
> 
> I do still like the idea of putting the Mustang V6 T-5 behind a 195.6 like we talked about a couple of yrs ago.  That is possible I think with a stock bellhousing, JY trans, but you'd still have to make the ~3/4" adapter plate.  The clutch parts, as you mentioned, are probably off-the-shelf but would take some savvy mix'n'match at the counter.  Nothing fancy would be required for a stock or near stock setup.
> 
> The extra gears plus an appropriate rear end ratio would probably make that combination a joy to drive with the good torque/low rpm usage of the 195.6 OHV.
> 
> I have that extra '65 American 440 HT that's sitting dead in the garage at my rental house that I've had no success selling, and have toyed with either doing the 195.6/T5 combo, or a 360/390/401 with whatever trans combo.  Need to drag that thing home.  I really don't need another hot rod, as the '69 will be that when it's done, so the old six/5 sp combo would great gas mileage and unique and with hop-up possibilities should I choose to tinker.
> 
> We need to get an adapter plate made! You had a good idea on that Andrew, need to draw up another drawing and see what it takes to have one fabbed up.  I don't have the right T5 trans, but I do have extra bellhousings and a rebuilt engine.
> 
> Jim Boone
> Mims, FL
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