Re: Fix the car up, now runs poor at the track...HELP!
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Re: Fix the car up, now runs poor at the track...HELP!



First practice easing into the throttle to rock the weight back onto the rear wheels and going deeper into the throttle as the rear tires get a little traction from the weight. That is the only way I ever got my SC/Rambler off the line. If you nail it and spin like you are leaving the saloon at midnight you don't look cool and your 60 ft. times suck. That is part of your e.t. you know.
Your original carburetor will work best until you are ready for a bigger one. If you must use a replacement be prepared to do some tuning. The Edelbrock carb and the Strip Kit that you will get to tune it with only have one step in the metering rods. This is where you will lose some gas mileage because the original AFB has two steps for three primary mixture positions. The metering rods work like this. Vacuum pulls the little pistons (under the covers left and right of the primaries) down which lets the rods go deeper into the jets to restrict gas flow at idle. As you get into the throttle, the vacuum starts to go away and the pistons and metering rods come up to allow the gas to be pulled over more easily to maintain a consistent mixture of gas and air. The springs under the pistons are VERY important in tuning these carbs. A stronger spring will push the piston up against the vacuum's effort to pull it down resulting in a richer mixture and worse mileage. The rods are numbered. You have to look up the numbers like on the chart supplied with the Strip Kit to figure which parts to use.
A good arrangement would be to use the little AFB type carb on the street and use a Holley 650 double pumper or a Holley 750 3310 vacuum secondary carb for the track. If you have a good intake and headers you can use a 750 double pumper. No, it is not too big. Jet size will be around 74-78. Shooter size will be around 31.
As for the cam, expect the Crane fireball cam to be quicker at the track. As with the other stuff, I have been there and done that (with a 343 even). For either cam to work right, you need a good intake and headers. A $75 used Torker is great. The results will be amazing when teamed with a $120 set of Blackjack headers.
Now for the tires. The street tires will be good for you at this point. Slicks will be another hassle which you don't have time for when you are tuning the car from end to end. Your street tires are safer and the car will handle much better. Let the air down in the back. You will be surprised how low you can go. (Air them back up before you go out on the street !!). Air the front tires up a little extra. Another down side to slicks on your almost stock Javelin is that they will probably be taller and you don't have enough gear now. Save the money. You haven't tuned the suspension yet.
Start by greasing the front end and replacing anything that is worn. Get an alignment and tell them to set it straight for drag racing. (no toe). Replace the heavy duty front shocks with light duty ones or drag shocks if you can afford it. Remove the front sway bar. Pack up the hardware so you can replace it when you want and start driving slower on the highway ! On the rear end, You may think about replacing the leaf springs with new stock type springs if the old ones are sagging but do NOT add longer shackles at the rear. Air shocks are ok at this point but do not jack up the rear of the car more than about an inch over stock. Next, raise the rear of the car evenly and install a clamp on the right side leaf spring ahead of the axle just before the end of the second longest leaf. You can make the clamps with sturdy 1" or 1 1/2" angle iron. Just cut two pieces two inches longer than the spring is wide and drill holes in the angle iron for 3/8 or 7/16 bolts such that they pass through as close to the spring as possible. Check for moving clearance with pipes, gas tank, etc. Make one for the left side too and try to launch with and without the left side clamped. The car may pull a little to one side during the 60 foot with or without the left clamp. When it goes straight, leave it alone. Do NOT clamp the rear of a leaf spring. You may install under the spring traction bars and go through the same tuning procedure as with the clamp by adjusting length and preload at the snubber ends.
I hope this helps.
Your AMC friend,
Gary Walker owner of some old stuff
Like "Mission Impossible" 68 S/Pro AMX
and The Grant Rebel SST Funny Car



----- Original Message ----- From: "AMC of Memphis" <amcofmemphis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:35 AM
Subject: Fix the car up, now runs poor at the track...HELP!



New Page 5Ok, I have a few questions. I went out to the track tonight and
ran some of the worst times I ever have. (best of a 14.7 prior to work but
usually ran around 15.1 - 15.3 and about a 15.7 now)


My 60 foot time was at best a 2.6 seconds. (close the same as before) Ok,
I figured that one out, I'm spinning off the line and slicks would help
alot.


Now, my max speed is about 88.5 mph.  I used to run about 93/94 mph in the
1/4.

I have changed my cam out with a comp cam 270H. (The prior cam was a Crane
Fireball 306C and was good for a band of 2000-4800) It's supposed to be
good for 1800-5800 RPM. I thought that would help me out throughout the
whole powerband.


Next, I swapped out my original Carter AFB to an Edelbrock 1406 (600 cfm
with electric choke).

Is the Edelbrock a smaller carb than that Carter AFB?

I guess I'm looking for what I did wrong or what's going on.  Can someone
explain metering rods?

Heck, my 343 is much tighter sounding and seems as if it has more power than
before and it doesn't even leak oil anymore.


I've got a 343/bw M11 auto/3:54 posi rear in a 68 Javelin.













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