Well, it came to naught. It was a nice car, ran good, driver's fender just starting to rust, part of driver's floor gone. I was willing to go to maybe 7-800$ but the bidding started at 1000 and it finally went for 1700Cdn. Had 76000 miles and a cast iron exhaust manifold. :) Ken Ames Quoting Andre K Jacobs <akjamc@xxxxxxxx>: > Frank > You are saying this engine used a tube type exhaust manifold, NOT cast > iron??? IF yes, then NO, not on the two or three I have seen and the one > owned buy a guy in Dallas that has been looking for two years now for > one. All I have seen are cast iron. What happens is just like what use to > happen to the 4 cyl imports that had a cast iron chamber below the > exhaust manifold. This was like a pre-cat filled with some ceramic honey > comb. This would get clogged up and cause excessive heat to build up ( > the engine would stop running from too much back pressure). The top side > of the exhaust would start to show singes of what looked like a very bad > rusting problem. It would start to bulge and get deep expansive cracking. > The cast iron just falls apart. The Audi 2L does this right in the middle > of the manifold. I looked at the design of the manifold, and thought how > easy it looked to make a tube type exhaust manifold for it, but........ > Anyway, if you know if source that have a tube type, pass it on. there > are a few folks out there that need them. I have repaired many 4L Jeep > tube type ones myself. > > Andre " A.J." Jacobs, > web page http://southtexasamc.tripod.com > (830)-980-3165 , akjamc@xxxxxxxx > > Owner & Proprietor, South Texas AMC > > > >