" From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> " " A: I have wrestled several of these around (4.0L and 2.5L) and there is a " noticeable difference in weight. I'm pretty sure it's lighter than the 196 I " had as a spare for the '61 Rambler I sold. afaik the 4.0 weighs about the same as most other 199/232/258, which is also in the ballpark for the 196 - so the 2.5 has to be 100-150 lbs lighter, give or take. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought