I didn't know about the starter location change between the 196 and 199/232!! Thanks a lot guys! The Postal Jeeps used a T-35 (M-35) behind the 232 for a lot longer than AMC used that trans in cars, even after AMC switched to Torque Flites. My bet is that the mid 70s Postal Jeeps with the T-35 use the small pattern. The best bet, unfortunately, would be to pull a complete 258 with TF trans and swap that in. Then there wouldn't be as many problems, unless a 199/232 BW trans is located. Did you change to a different trans or overcome the problem AJ?? On February 22, 2005 Andre K Jacobs wrote: > OK, best if you friend calls me, Typing and all are not my gig. The bell > hosing patterns are the same, BUT the housings are NOT. The 196 starter > in moved in . The196 has a basic 90, block- to pan rail set up with > little material angled out. The 199-232 DON'T, and the starter will not > bolt up. 1st hand experience here, I put a 232 in to a 64 with a flat > head 196, I put the trans in twice because of this! > There are small housings in the Jeeps too, I don't know much about it, > just saw one in a 4 cyl postal in a junk yard. Remember that one Fred? > Andre " A.J." Jacobs, > web page http://southtexasamc.tripod.com > (830)-980-3165 , akjamc@xxxxxxxx > > Owner & Proprietor, South Texas AMC > > > > . ============================================================= Posted by wixList Archiver -- http://www.amxfiles.com/wixlist