Thanks for asking Joe. I also noticed it was slow. When I got two emails in one day I figured something was going on. This weekend I am finally getting around to rebuilding my small block that busted the block a couple winters ago. Interesting someone mentioned the valve seals - Disassembled the first head today and seals were shot, back of valves bad. I also made a valve-train organization tray made of wood and dowels. New ones are $40 and I figured that could buy me new seals. Have a good weekend. Eddie --- On Sat, 2/23/13, amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: AMC-list Digest, Vol 47, Issue 18 To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 12:35 PM Send AMC-list mailing list submissions to amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at amc-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AMC-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. A little activity on the list (Joe Fulton) 2. Re: A little activity on the list (Ross Guistino) 3. Re: A little activity on the list (Joe Fulton) 4. Re: A little activity on the list (Ross Guistino) 5. Re: A little activity on the list (Thomas DeBusk) 6. Re: A little activity on the list (Thomas DeBusk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:23:45 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list Message-ID: <1361593425.69132.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Amc list is kinda quiet these days. I lurk and post on the AMC Forum and watch the Facebook page but I miss the intelligent banter here on the list too and I don't hear much from some of my favorite gurus any more. I'll be working on my 76 Gremlin this weekend and welding a new gas pedal base onto the floor of my 62 Classic wagon. The Gremlin has been out of the paint shop and stored inside for over four years so I guess the base coat clear coat paint is ready to color sand and buff. Actually way past ready. I have a new carpet and recovered seats for it. I have a fresh 232 and was going to put a t-150 with Laycock overdrive in it but I discovered that it already has a 2.73 rear end so an overdrive would not be practical I think. If I could finda a 3.08 AMC 15 rear or the next lower ratio I might reconsider the overdrive. But for now I'll keep it simple and reinstall the T-14. What will you fellow listers be doing this weekend (bad keyboard, no question mark). Joe Fulton ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:10:46 -0800 From: "Ross Guistino" <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list Message-ID: <001e01ce11e0$57095920$051c0b60$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Joe, good to read about your ramblings again. Why did you decide on a 232 for the Gremlin? Or is that one you happened to have hanging around? Not doing anything AMC related this weekend, although I really should think about bringing Vivo down to the tire repair shop to take care of the slow leak in my rear tire. It's becoming a real pain in the dupa to drag my compressor down the driveway to air it back up. Drove her to the office on Thursday and at the end of the day had a note on my windshield from a Janelle who wanted to buy her. I think I'll hold onto her for a while tho. Ross Guistino Rohnert Park CA NorCal AMC Auto Group -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Fulton Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:24 PM To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list The Amc list is kinda quiet these days. I lurk and post on the AMC Forum and watch the Facebook page but I miss the intelligent banter here on the list too and I don't hear much from some of my favorite gurus any more. I'll be working on my 76 Gremlin this weekend and welding a new gas pedal base onto the floor of my 62 Classic wagon. The Gremlin has been out of the paint shop and stored inside for over four years so I guess the base coat clear coat paint is ready to color sand and buff. Actually way past ready. I have a new carpet and recovered seats for it. I have a fresh 232 and was going to put a t-150 with Laycock overdrive in it but I discovered that it already has a 2.73 rear end so an overdrive would not be practical I think. If I could finda a 3.08 AMC 15 rear or the next lower ratio I might reconsider the overdrive. But for now I'll keep it simple and reinstall the T-14. What will you fellow listers be doing this weekend (bad keyboard, no question mark). Joe Fulton _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 09:09:13 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Rambler Nash Jeep and familyAMC <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list Message-ID: <1361639353.47585.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ross, Yes Gremlins are chick magnets. We all know that. My 76 Gremlin had a 232 from the factory and I had the block machined and bored 0.030 oversize, bought all the other new parts, but did not put it back together before I found a factory rebuilt short block in Los Angeles that I thought was a 258. I drove to LA and bought it only to find out that it was another 232 so I decided to go ahead and use it. Good to hear from you. Regards, Joe --- On Sat, 2/23/13, Ross Guistino <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Ross Guistino <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 8:10 AM > Hi Joe, good to read about your > ramblings again.? Why did you decide on a > 232 for the Gremlin?? Or is that one you happened to > have hanging around?? > > Not doing anything AMC related this weekend, although I > really should think > about bringing Vivo down to the tire repair shop to take > care of the slow > leak in my rear tire.? It's becoming a real pain in the > dupa to drag my > compressor down the driveway to air it back up.? > > Drove her to the office on Thursday and at the end of the > day had a note on > my windshield from a Janelle who wanted to buy her.? I > think I'll hold onto > her for a while tho.? > > Ross Guistino > Rohnert Park CA > NorCal AMC Auto Group > > -----Original Message----- > From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Joe Fulton > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:24 PM > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list > > The Amc list is kinda quiet these days.? I lurk and > post on the AMC Forum > and watch the Facebook page but I miss the intelligent > banter here on the > list too and I don't hear much from some of my favorite > gurus any more. > > I'll be working on my 76 Gremlin this weekend and welding a > new gas pedal > base onto the floor of my 62 Classic > wagon.???The Gremlin has been out of > the paint shop and stored inside for over four years so I > guess the base > coat clear coat paint is ready to color sand and > buff.???Actually way past > ready.? I have a new carpet and recovered seats for > it.? I have a fresh 232 > and was going to put a t-150 with Laycock overdrive in it > but I discovered > that it already has a 2.73 rear end so an overdrive would > not be practical I > think.? If I could finda a 3.08 AMC 15 rear or the next > lower ratio I might > reconsider the overdrive.? But for now I'll keep it > simple and reinstall the > T-14. > > What will you fellow listers be doing this weekend (bad > keyboard, no > question mark). > > Joe Fulton > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 09:19:34 -0800 From: "Ross Guistino" <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list Message-ID: <000301ce11e9$f3a2ada0$dae808e0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What a drag about your LA visit for an engine that was misrepresented. Oh well, that's how the ole AMC ball bounces I guess. Question for you or the list, if I ever win the Lotto and have some extra cash, and wanted to have my tired 304 overhauled, what kind of costs would I be looking at? Currently it doesn't smoke when driving but does smoke considerably at start up. I was told new valve seals would remedy that. Is it worth the effort to rebuild it? Of course I have no skills so I'd have to find a knowledgeable shop or person to do it. Ross -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Fulton Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:09 AM To: Rambler Nash Jeep and familyAMC Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list Ross, Yes Gremlins are chick magnets. We all know that. My 76 Gremlin had a 232 from the factory and I had the block machined and bored 0.030 oversize, bought all the other new parts, but did not put it back together before I found a factory rebuilt short block in Los Angeles that I thought was a 258. I drove to LA and bought it only to find out that it was another 232 so I decided to go ahead and use it. Good to hear from you. Regards, Joe --- On Sat, 2/23/13, Ross Guistino <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Ross Guistino <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 8:10 AM Hi Joe, good to read about > your ramblings again.? Why did you decide on a > 232 for the Gremlin?? Or is that one you happened to have hanging > around? > > Not doing anything AMC related this weekend, although I really should > think about bringing Vivo down to the tire repair shop to take care of > the slow leak in my rear tire.? It's becoming a real pain in the dupa > to drag my compressor down the driveway to air it back up. > > Drove her to the office on Thursday and at the end of the day had a > note on my windshield from a Janelle who wanted to buy her.? I think > I'll hold onto her for a while tho. > > Ross Guistino > Rohnert Park CA > NorCal AMC Auto Group > > -----Original Message----- > From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Joe Fulton > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:24 PM > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list > > The Amc list is kinda quiet these days.? I lurk and post on the AMC > Forum and watch the Facebook page but I miss the intelligent banter > here on the list too and I don't hear much from some of my favorite > gurus any more. > > I'll be working on my 76 Gremlin this weekend and welding a new gas > pedal base onto the floor of my 62 Classic wagon.???The Gremlin has > been out of the paint shop and stored inside for over four years so I > guess the base coat clear coat paint is ready to color sand and buff.??? > Actually way past ready.? I have a new carpet and recovered seats for > it.? I have a fresh 232 and was going to put a t-150 with Laycock > overdrive in it but I discovered that it already has a 2.73 rear end > so an overdrive would not be practical I think.? If I could finda a > 3.08 AMC 15 rear or the next lower ratio I might reconsider the > overdrive.? But for now I'll keep it simple and reinstall the T-14. > > What will you fellow listers be doing this weekend (bad keyboard, no > question mark). > > Joe Fulton > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:35:15 -0500 From: Thomas DeBusk <tleed@xxxxxxxx> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "<amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list Message-ID: <44CA48D8-5652-48A6-BECE-DD04964A0FF2@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Do the valve seals! The 66k-mile 383 in my '68 Fury smoked the same: on start-up, but also downhill deceleration. I replaced the valve seals, but too late. Many little bits had already fallen off, migrated down, & choked up oil pickup in oil pan. Bearing spun when my brother had the car. Block too damaged to use by the time it got back to me. Do the valve seals! Thomas DeBusk 540-818-0767 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2013, at 12:19 PM, "Ross Guistino" <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What a drag about your LA visit for an engine that was misrepresented. Oh > well, that's how the ole AMC ball bounces I guess. > > Question for you or the list, if I ever win the Lotto and have some extra > cash, and wanted to have my tired 304 overhauled, what kind of costs would I > be looking at? Currently it doesn't smoke when driving but does smoke > considerably at start up. I was told new valve seals would remedy that. Is > it worth the effort to rebuild it? Of course I have no skills so I'd have > to find a knowledgeable shop or person to do it. > > Ross > > -----Original Message----- > From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Fulton > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:09 AM > To: Rambler Nash Jeep and familyAMC > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list > > > Ross, > > Yes Gremlins are chick magnets. We all know that. My 76 Gremlin had a 232 > from the factory and I had the block machined and bored 0.030 oversize, > bought all the other new parts, but did not put it back together before I > found a factory rebuilt short block in Los Angeles that I thought was a 258. > I drove to LA and bought it only to find out that it was another 232 so I > decided to go ahead and use it. > > Good to hear from you. > > Regards, > Joe > --- On Sat, 2/23/13, Ross Guistino <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> From: Ross Guistino <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list >> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 8:10 AM Hi Joe, good to read about >> your ramblings again. Why did you decide on a >> 232 for the Gremlin? Or is that one you happened to have hanging >> around? >> >> Not doing anything AMC related this weekend, although I really should >> think about bringing Vivo down to the tire repair shop to take care of >> the slow leak in my rear tire. It's becoming a real pain in the dupa >> to drag my compressor down the driveway to air it back up. >> >> Drove her to the office on Thursday and at the end of the day had a >> note on my windshield from a Janelle who wanted to buy her. I think >> I'll hold onto her for a while tho. >> >> Ross Guistino >> Rohnert Park CA >> NorCal AMC Auto Group >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Joe Fulton >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:24 PM >> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list >> >> The Amc list is kinda quiet these days. I lurk and post on the AMC >> Forum and watch the Facebook page but I miss the intelligent banter >> here on the list too and I don't hear much from some of my favorite >> gurus any more. >> >> I'll be working on my 76 Gremlin this weekend and welding a new gas >> pedal base onto the floor of my 62 Classic wagon. The Gremlin has >> been out of the paint shop and stored inside for over four years so I >> guess the base coat clear coat paint is ready to color sand and buff. >> Actually way past ready. I have a new carpet and recovered seats for >> it. I have a fresh 232 and was going to put a t-150 with Laycock >> overdrive in it but I discovered that it already has a 2.73 rear end >> so an overdrive would not be practical I think. If I could finda a >> 3.08 AMC 15 rear or the next lower ratio I might reconsider the >> overdrive. But for now I'll keep it simple and reinstall the T-14. >> >> What will you fellow listers be doing this weekend (bad keyboard, no >> question mark). >> >> Joe Fulton >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AMC-list mailing list >> AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AMC-list mailing list >> AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:35:15 -0500 From: Thomas DeBusk <tleed@xxxxxxxx> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "<amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list Message-ID: <44CA48D8-5652-48A6-BECE-DD04964A0FF2@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Do the valve seals! The 66k-mile 383 in my '68 Fury smoked the same: on start-up, but also downhill deceleration. I replaced the valve seals, but too late. Many little bits had already fallen off, migrated down, & choked up oil pickup in oil pan. Bearing spun when my brother had the car. Block too damaged to use by the time it got back to me. Do the valve seals! Thomas DeBusk 540-818-0767 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2013, at 12:19 PM, "Ross Guistino" <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What a drag about your LA visit for an engine that was misrepresented. Oh > well, that's how the ole AMC ball bounces I guess. > > Question for you or the list, if I ever win the Lotto and have some extra > cash, and wanted to have my tired 304 overhauled, what kind of costs would I > be looking at? Currently it doesn't smoke when driving but does smoke > considerably at start up. I was told new valve seals would remedy that. Is > it worth the effort to rebuild it? Of course I have no skills so I'd have > to find a knowledgeable shop or person to do it. > > Ross > > -----Original Message----- > From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Fulton > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:09 AM > To: Rambler Nash Jeep and familyAMC > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list > > > Ross, > > Yes Gremlins are chick magnets. We all know that. My 76 Gremlin had a 232 > from the factory and I had the block machined and bored 0.030 oversize, > bought all the other new parts, but did not put it back together before I > found a factory rebuilt short block in Los Angeles that I thought was a 258. > I drove to LA and bought it only to find out that it was another 232 so I > decided to go ahead and use it. > > Good to hear from you. > > Regards, > Joe > --- On Sat, 2/23/13, Ross Guistino <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> From: Ross Guistino <rossg@xxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list >> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> Date: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 8:10 AM Hi Joe, good to read about >> your ramblings again. Why did you decide on a >> 232 for the Gremlin? Or is that one you happened to have hanging >> around? >> >> Not doing anything AMC related this weekend, although I really should >> think about bringing Vivo down to the tire repair shop to take care of >> the slow leak in my rear tire. It's becoming a real pain in the dupa >> to drag my compressor down the driveway to air it back up. >> >> Drove her to the office on Thursday and at the end of the day had a >> note on my windshield from a Janelle who wanted to buy her. I think >> I'll hold onto her for a while tho. >> >> Ross Guistino >> Rohnert Park CA >> NorCal AMC Auto Group >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Joe Fulton >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:24 PM >> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [AMC-list] A little activity on the list >> >> The Amc list is kinda quiet these days. I lurk and post on the AMC >> Forum and watch the Facebook page but I miss the intelligent banter >> here on the list too and I don't hear much from some of my favorite >> gurus any more. >> >> I'll be working on my 76 Gremlin this weekend and welding a new gas >> pedal base onto the floor of my 62 Classic wagon. The Gremlin has >> been out of the paint shop and stored inside for over four years so I >> guess the base coat clear coat paint is ready to color sand and buff. >> Actually way past ready. I have a new carpet and recovered seats for >> it. I have a fresh 232 and was going to put a t-150 with Laycock >> overdrive in it but I discovered that it already has a 2.73 rear end >> so an overdrive would not be practical I think. If I could finda a >> 3.08 AMC 15 rear or the next lower ratio I might reconsider the >> overdrive. But for now I'll keep it simple and reinstall the T-14. >> >> What will you fellow listers be doing this weekend (bad keyboard, no >> question mark). >> >> Joe Fulton >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AMC-list mailing list >> AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AMC-list mailing list >> AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-list mailing list > AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com End of AMC-list Digest, Vol 47, Issue 18 **************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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