OK, I guess I may have been wrong on the takeover date, but the 258 came in '71 didn't it? Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:25:18 -0800 From: fullsizejeeps@xxxxxxxxx To: carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx CC: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; wallacem7@xxxxxxx; fsj-digest@xxxxxxxxxx; dieseljohn@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: AMC acquired Jeep in 1970. they took over in 1970. There appears to be some minor discrepancies in the record... some cite January, others February... :) Maybe someone can research the corporate records with the SEC if you'd like and confirm which month in 1970 this actually happened. I only opened two of my books... have more than a dozen that would confirm this, and likely a sales brochure as well... :) and remember also I was watching TV commercials and getting ready to drive when all this was happening... p.464 - Std Catalog of 4x4s - "American Motors acquired the Kaiser Jeep assets in January, 1970." p. 272 - Std Catalog of American Motors - "American Motors purchased Jeep, from Kaiser Industries, in February 1970." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Motors - American Motors (AMC) purchased Kaiser's Jeep operations in 1970 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Motors - "The company changed its name to Kaiser Jeep in 1963. By 1969, Kaiser Industries decided to leave the auto business, which was sold to American Motors in 1970. As part of the transaction, Kaiser acquired a 22% interest in AMC, which it later divested. Included in the sale was the General Products Division, which Kaiser had purchased from Studebaker in 1964 as it prepared to leave the auto business itself. AMC renamed the division AM General, which still operates today, and is best known as the manufacturer of the original High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle ((or Humvee), later called the Hummer H1." http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/liberty-history.html http://www.best-jeep-guide.com/history-of-jeeps.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Motors-Corporation/108155832550365 On 11/12/2010 8:48 PM, Jim Blair wrote: Introduced for the '71 model year (when AMC officially took over) > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:51:04 -0800 > From: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx > CC: wallacem7@xxxxxxx; fsj-digest@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: fsj: Patch panels and Buick 350's > > got it straight out of the book... the issue is it was introduced mid-year, that's why > you are wrong, or think I'm wrong... because we're both kind of right... remember, it's a jeep thing, > you won't understand. :) > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Jim Blair wrote: > > # > # You're off a little bit there. 258 didn't come along till '71 and that year only it came with the small bell pattern of the 199 and earlier 232. In '72 it matched the AMC V8 (and later 4.0L) > # > # > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:58:20 -0800 > # > From: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > # > To: wallacem7@xxxxxxx > # > CC: fsj-digest@xxxxxxxxxx > # > Subject: Re: fsj: Patch panels and Buick 350's > # > > # > 1970 was an interesting year.. AMC acquired Jeep from Kaiser... that year > # > you could get a 232, or a 258(which was the standard engine), a 304 or a > # > 360, and from what I have read, you could still get the Dauntless Buick 350 > # > V-8 in the 1414X Wagoneer, with "Limited Quality" or something like that... > # > > # > so it's possible that a 350 could be found in a '71... but knowing how > # > jeeps and jeep owners are, anything is possible... :) > # > > # > concerning the 390, sounds like it jumped timing... didn't realize > # > those were interference motors... unless someone put the wrong push > # > rods in it... > # > > # > john -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/20101112/ecf74ac3/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com