Re: [AMC-list] [BaadAssGremlins] Re: eagle dies at stops signs/lights

["Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hmm....also helpful but this is new out of box carb, so not sure it would apply, it might, just not sure. I do however wish to note that the gas tank cap behind the license plate seems to build up some pressure. I mentioned this to the O'Reillys guy when picking up other stuff today and he said there should not be any pressure as not hot day. But I smelled gas, and remembered my 82 Eagle used to build up pressure like that and for like of me, can't remember how I remedied it ten years ago and still drive the 82 with 210K miles on it. But I did stop at Wal Mart to check on some Hot wheels (none) AMXs, and twisted off gas cap and WHOOOOSH! came back at me. It did same in the 2 mile jaunt home also, but not as bad. Suggestions comments appreciated between dehumidifying the  house and pulling up carpet for 2nd day in row in effort to save hardwood floors!
Eddie Stakes
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Henry Hultquist 
  To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: eagle dies at stops signs/lights




  The Ball and Ball (or is it Ball and Stall) carb just seems to be trouble I had an Eagle that stalled at every stop light, especially if I had to stop in a hurry.  Check this out, I think I first saw it on a jeep site, but it is on (ahem) Planet Houston AMX.


  http://www.planethoustonamx.com/main/amc_carter_carb_fix.htm


  Onree in Nebraska




  On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Eddie Stakes wrote:





    Hi Jimn and thanks tot all who have replied so far, a lot of excellent
    advise. Here is what I have replaced:
    New carb $250
    New ignition module $70
    spark plugs
    rotor
    cap
    It runs great but still conks out for no reason sometimes, most recently
    today.

    I was driving along I-10 feeder road and it felt like it sort of lost power,
    then regained compusure.
    On top of the manifold directly behind the power steering unit something
    that screws into the intake from top and a wire goes into it. The unit is
    broken, not sure what it might be, maybe O2 sensor?

    In back of the breather there is two provisions for something that on my
    other 88 Eagle; has two emission tubes. These are not hooked up to anything
    and looking under car there is nothing to hook them up to if they were
    there, in other words, they were bypassed at some point.

    The car seems to have lots of pep with 78K miles. It is just that this
    sputtering sometimes or outright dying is annoying. Someone else mentioned
    it is something in the steering column, somehting I have not heard before.

    So slowly will figure this out, and again, thanks to all who have replied on 
    the various lists, keep ideas coming,
    Eddie Stakes
    713.464.8825
    eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    www.planethoustonamx.com

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Eddie Stakes"
    <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:09 PM
    Subject: RE: [AMC-list] eagle dies at stops signs/lights

    I've had that stalling problem with my Spirit (and Eagles and Jeeps) several
    times too.

    First it was the carb being loose (grab ahold of the body of the carb
    with the aircleaner off and see if you can twist it. If the answer is yes,
    pop it off and re-tighten the main body screws up from the bottom and the
    other 2 from the top. Replace base gasket and don't bang carb upside down!
    That will mess with the float level). The weight of the air cleaner, which
    is held down only by the air cleaner stud, rocks back and forth and loosens
    the screws.

    Then the stepper motor was sticking (cleaned it out with throttle body
    cleaner. NOTE: Do NOT use WD40 or anything else with silicon lube in it!
    That will kill the O2 sensor that makes the BBD function properly and will
    cost you fuel economy. If you don't have the stepper, then it doesn't
    matter)

    Then the rust in the gas tank clogged up the carb, filters, etc. I took
    the top off the carb, reset the float and sprayed everything clean along
    with a new filter. (I had to do it twice more before I added another inline
    filter and sediment bowl before the fuel pump)

    The car got hard to start when cold and it puzzled me as the choke was
    perfect. Found out the rust had eaten (or jammed) the valves in the fuel
    pump and allowed the fuel to go back to the tank after shut off. New fuel
    pump and fresh pre-filter again. (I recently cured that rust problem with a
    good used replacement fuel tank, but now it needs a sending unit as I was
    lubing my old one and accidentally dropped it. Now it only reads full to 3/4
    tank)

    I've had a few other things happen before too. Ignition module going
    south was one. With the motor warmed up, smack the Motorcraft module with a
    rubber mallet. If the car shuts off, replace the module.

    Another was a torque converter going bad. Put the car in forward gear and
    even the slightest gas would make it stall. Worked fine in reverse. The fix
    was to drop the valve body and plug off the line to the lockup converter (S
    shaped tube on top of '77ish and newer Mopar style trans) with a large BB.
    That defeats the lockup, doesn't cost much (except time, a trans service
    kit, a BB and the seal for the shifter linkage shaft. The linkage has to be
    removed and re-adjusted to work properly when done. I highly suggest
    pressure washing to degrease the driver's side of the trans before working
    on it)

    As for the Nutter Bypass, a google search will show it on may sites
    including my own old one at Geocities. (photos got messed up with mine)

    Loud internal noises can cause the knock sensor (which is really just a
    microphone tuned to certain sound wavelength) to radically retard timing and
    can cause stalling too.

    From: "Eddie Stakes"
    Subject: [AMC-list] eagle dies at stops signs/lights
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    Somewhere on the Eagle nest forum, there is/was a thread about AMC Eagle
    dying for no reason at stop signs and stop lights. Always cranked right back
    up no problem, but more of a annoyance than anything. For some reason I
    thought it had something to do with carb, but unsure. Anyone remember the
    link or thread about that feel free to post it here so I can go check it
    out, to troubleshoot a Eagle. Thanks in advance to all who might reply.
    Eddie Stakes
    713.464.8825
    eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    www.planethoustonamx.com
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