The 232 is heavier as well I have never regretted doing brake upgrades on my cars The extra money involved gets recouped the first time the car stops when maybe it would not have before My 64 Classic has late model Matador disks on the front a relatively cheap upgrade My daily driver Holden Commodore has about 3 grand of brake upgrades but then it has about 50% more power than it came from the factory with. The stock brakes were pretty inadequate with the factory power level Regards Stu Melbourne Australia -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Swygert Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2008 4:55 AM To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Bigger brakes on 232 vs 196 for 65 American? Think about it Tom! The 232 has a good bit more power than the 196. More towing/hauling capacity and speed potential means you need better brakes! A common mistake among novice hot rodders is to stick a big engine in a little car with stock brakes... need I say more? ------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:03:56 -0500 (EST) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) " From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> " " " " The 232 car got Bendix 9x2.5, the 195.6 got Wagner 9x2. That makes no sense " to me as the two cars have got to be the same weight, or maybe the 195.6 " heavier! i don't recall where i saw it - amc/rc docs maybe? - but iirc the '65 196 220 was 2640lb shipping weight; the '66 199 220, 2625. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: 3/01/2008 3:52 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: 3/01/2008 3:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: 3/01/2008 3:52 PM _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list