FRANK, you were exactly right on the fact of them coming loose. i could only see the 2 bottom bolts. they were tight. i got to where i could crawl under the car to see better. the 2 top bolts are GONE. i did not get them tight enough obviously. so, both top ones gone. the moving up and down was bending the to bottom ears. that could explain everything. maybe it isnt all my brake set up afterall? i mean im sure it had a fair amount to do with it. but maybe not the main culprit. just my inability to make sure every d*m bolt is tight? i mean, i know the front brakes are doing a fair amount of work. i feel heat on them when i get back to the house after a whoa down from 70 or so. so they ARE working. i have yet to feel the rears to compare tho. but that makes me feel a little better (in a weird kinda way)that it is not ALL to do with the brake setup. well, on to lows now, to get some new bolts, and get the welder drug to the trialer. by the way, there shouldnt be any tranny gear oil coming out of the tail shaft correct? im hoping it is just because the driveshaft is half way fallen out right now.... more updates as i get it repaired. dave sthler. broke and bummed. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list