all 4 bolts appear to be tight. i just got off work and am about to go out and do some more thoruo investigating. i was only doing about 20 mph or so when it happend so it didnt skid very far. at first inspection, panhard bar and shocks appeared to be ok. yes i do use the trans to shift down alot. i am going to learn to STOP ding that now. i never thought about something like this happening. i thought that woulda been stronger than that. yes, the rubber "doughnut" is still there and intact. ripped all 4 ears off the tube where they were welded to the tube at. drive shaft was about 1/2" from letting the whole thing fall on the ground. used a ratchet strap to pull it all back to load it on the trailer. i think it is a mix of 2 things. 1, like you said the down shifting. and 2, the brakes i been working with lately. as some people know, i have put 2000 mustang gt dual piston calliper brakes up front. i selected the wrong master cylinder for the job i guess. i get rear end lockup to soon, so the front dont get the majority of the job. so that leaves the rear axle to do the majority of the stopping. it wasnt built to do that. so, i need to come across a master cylinder that will work better for me. my front callipers are 2x45mm pistons on each calliper. the rear wheel cylinders are factory 15/16" according to my tsm. says the master cylinder was 1". several people have explained how that works, but they have explained it in different ways, and confused me. sound contridicting at times. thanks for the help and advice. time to repair the "GHOST". my friends said that would be a good name for her. they claim to have heard of ramblers, but never seen them... and she is white. works for me. dave stohler. broke and bummed. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list