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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Ebay Gremlin Item number: 260066423467 (Mark Price)
2. Re: Another Re; E Stick, now Drivers (Mark Price)
3. Re: Was E-Stick, Now Drivers (Mark Price)
4. Re: Tust the Midas Touch - if you're a Masochist - (Mark Price)
5. 79 CJ7 Transmission ID ?? (Arfon)
6. Re: E Stick, now Drivers (Mark Price)
7. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 48 (Mark Price)
8. Re: Another Re; E Stick, now Drivers (Mark Price)
9. Re: 79 CJ7 Transmission ID ?? (msproviero@xxxxxxxxxxx)
10. Re; Ebay Gremlin Item number: 260066423467 - again (John Elle)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 6:05:35 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Ebay Gremlin Item number: 260066423467
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
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I wouldn't bet on it, Notice how pretty the "rebuilt" engine is!
Could be though. Shame, too, texas car, could be a nice solid body, but I for one would prefer to have found it before it had 100's of hours of restoration done!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Also, the VIN says it's a 232 but the ad says 258. Been replaced?
>
> Ken
>
> Quoting Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>:
>
> > On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Mark Price wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone looked at this Gremlin! WOW, someone buy that man some masking
> > tape! It brings a whole new meaning to the phrase, "Let no panel remain
> > untouched" ! There does not appear to be one aligned or properly prepped and
> > cleaned area on this entire car. Don't foegt to check out the snazzy blue
> > seats and the cool racing accents on the quarter panels!
> >
> > That is so sad! Poor little Gremlin in an ugly dress!
> >
> > I assume their "90 percent complete" means the blue and brown
> > interior is not intentional. Either of those colors alone is
> > bad enough, but together?! Vomitous.
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 6:10:30 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Another Re; E Stick, now Drivers
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
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10-15 horsepower would move one of those small early buggies fast enough to scare the pants off of horse and buggy people!
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Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> A recent episode of Old Autos TV had a 1908(?) Sears on it with just such a
> transmission but it was only 10-15hp.
>
> Ken
>
>
> Quoting Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Someone and I can't remember who, was it White?, made a vairable transmission
> > back in the 1910's that was a large heavy flywheel mounted to an enegine and
> > the way the car was driven was the engine speed was a constant and you moved
> > a lever which moved the drive along the face of the flywheel. Starting close
> > to center for low speed and torque moving out toward the edge as speed
> > increased.
> > I remember reading the artice that stated the things had so much torque you
> > could put a front tire against a tree and the car would climb it vertically!
> > What I can't remember is the specifics of how it was made and worked nor
> > who made the thing! I know I remember it was never mass produced. I assume it
> > was due to a lack of reliabilty.
> > I always thought the concept was so simple that it couldn't possibly
> > work!
> > For yeasr now I've wanted to drive on of the new variable trans cars to see
> > what it felt like! I wonder if it as unusual a feeling as the E-stick! Nissan
> > uses one in it's high horsepower Maximas, should be a blast to test drive!
> > --
> > Mark Price
> > markprice242ATadelphia.net
> > Morgantown, WV
> >
> >
> > ---- John Elle <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > The Dodge fluid drive was as described,
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 6:15:01 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Was E-Stick, Now Drivers
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The clutch flights pop up on eBay from time to time. Fairly regularly actually. I think the pressure came up as you released the clutch. I know a few people built street cars with them, but I don't think the life span was long due to the wear and tear. All the slippage and shock absorption of the converter is gone. Must be brutal on internals. Even the late model cars unlock the converter when shifting, at least all the ones I've driven seem to.
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Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Seems to me there was something knicknamed a 'clutch-flyte' that drag racers
> used in the 60s that had a clutch instead of the torque converter. Wonder how
> they kept 1st gear applied while the pedal was pressed. Or did they? Maybe there
> was a slight delay after pedal release while the front pump pressurized the
> system before the car actually moved. Think there was a turbo350\400 version too.
>
> Ken
>
>
> Quoting Sandwich Maker <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > " From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
> > <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > "
> > "
> > " Almost all manufacturers had some sort of semi-auto trans where you only
> > " had to use the clutch to come to a complete stop and to start. Once GM
> > " introduced the Hydramatic in the late 30s (I seem to recall 38?) they
> >
> > that sounds about right.
> >
> > " had to! GM didn't start selling Hydros to others until 1950. Then Nash
> > " was the first to make a deal, trading use of their "Weather Eye"
> > " filtration system for rights to buy the Hydro. A year or two later GM
> > " was selling Hydros to others as well.
> >
> > and putting them in unexpected places, like the m135 korean-war army
> > trucks, behind the 302-inch six - the other 'jimmy' beloved of early
> > hot rodders. how about a deuce-and-a-half with a wayne head and
> > fenton headers? but i've always heard the gmcs were crap compared to
> > the reo-studebaker-kaiser-amgeneral m35/m44; they actually lost the
> > army drive-off but were made anyway because of korea.
> >
> > not long after that the factory was totally destroyed in a fire, and
> > then the race was on... everyone rushed to develop their own auto.
> > the iron warner / fmx was probably the last of the 1st-gen, surviving
> > until '80 in fords.
> > ________________________________________________________________________
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> > internet rambler is to see what all have seen
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 6:28:11 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Tust the Midas Touch - if you're a Masochist -
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I've seen good and bad ones.
I think they buy mufflers and prebent stuff from the parent company and everything else they can do with product of their choosing. So if you get a set of pipes bent up you have a better chance of getting good stock depending on what the local place buys. Believe me there is a big difference in the quality of pipe available out there.
There is also the possibility that they are supposed to buy all their stock from the parent company, but it is easy to buy straight stock anywhere and some local shops buy some of thiers outside the parent Co's eyesight!.
One shop I knew of years back would even bend up your pipes for a beer and $20 or so! I also know a friend of mine put straight pipes to turbo mufflers on his ford product and took it in to get tailpipes. They took one look at how low his mufflers and pipes hung and said, " No way can we leave that go out of here looking like that"! So, They dropped the whole exhaust, bent his pipes up front to tuck them in, made new hangers and ran tailpipes to the rear pan. All for the same exact price they quoted him over the phone for just putting the tailpipes on! What blew my mind was not a single person in that shop knew my friend before hand!
They did know the word of mouth traffic to come out of doing such things though! I bet they put on 10-20 systems for other guys we knew just because he told everyone how good they treated him. No, The shop did not ever mistreat or rip off anyone in all those people I ever knew of.
Shame there aren't more shops like that around. I know a few guys that live and die doing that kind of work to this day. But, it's a very few.................
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Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Just like any other chain, there are good ones and bad ones. The one by
> me does really good work and there are a couple of guys there really
> into cars (one has a 5.0 Mustang he races, another has a 70 Superbird).
> It's usually one of those guys working on the old stuff (like my cars).
>
> Matt
>
> Brien Tourville wrote:
> > If you do use Midas, don't allow them to
> > weld anything together - they use cheap
> > off-shore high acid content metal - the
> > welds will rot within two years.
> >
> > Bring any NOS style hangers with you
> > unless you like sheet metal screws being
> > railed thru your floors.
> >
> > I had them install on my 1989 Honda
> > Civic Si. Two years later the entire
> > system was junk.
> >
> > They wouldn't honor the Lifetime
> > coverage on the muffler unless they
> > installed another exhaust system -
> > again - at the same price as the
> > initial install.
> >
> > Getting 'Midasized' brought a whole
> > new meaning to the experience.
> >
> >
> >
> > =Bt=
> > milnersXcoupe
> > "The Heretic"
> >
> >
> >
> > <>
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [AMC-List] exhaust pipes
> >
> >
> > If you have head pipes, can't you just stick cheap mufflers on it and
> > drive over? Also, they should be able to bend the pipes up for you if
> >
> > the
> > truck is pretty much stock. The Midas by me had no problem bending up
> > a
> > pipe for my 68 American.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > Wayne E LaMothe wrote:
> >> Since the only place that makes exhaust pipes is over 30 miles away and
> >> the J10 has no pipes on it, I can't get the truck to them. Is there any
> >> place that sells old cars exhaust parts? NAPA does not list either the
> >> tailpipe or the intermediate pipe. I might have to bring my pieces in
> >> to see what they can bend up to match.
> >>
> >> Any leads?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >> 66 Ambo 990 wagon, 327, auto, PS, PDB, PW, 69 Ambo 2 dr, 401 M12
> >> 83 Eagle Limited, 82 Eagle SX/4
> >> 88 J10, a real truck
> >> 2001 XJ, 2000 Cirrus (both hers)
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:33:26 -0600
From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 79 CJ7 Transmission ID ??
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Anyone want to take a shot at this?
>From: "Colby McCollum" <yamaha415@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>I am trying to find out what model transmission i have in my 79 cj7 it has
>the 304AMC and the numbers on the top of the transmission
>read13-01-097-007. I was told it was a T4 but from looking at your site
>that doesnt appear to be the case. Could you tell me what this
>transmission is.
>Thanks
>Colby
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 6:34:42 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] E Stick, now Drivers
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx>
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I'm a shoebox guy! I'll take an XB! Yes, for daily driver use they should add in the all wheel drive option on both models as should Chebbie with the HHR.
I hated my S10, but an allwheeldrive HHR in the new panel truck trim I just saw in HotRod magazine, with a manual trans would be awefully tempting!
My wife and I looked real hard at the Honda Element, but they screwed theirselves out of a sale by only putting seating for 4 in them. We wouldn't have been able to take even one kids friend with us anywhere!
My Dakota Quadcab with bench seat hauls 6! Tight to shift around, but doable.
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Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> "ps. toyota is selling all the xbs they can make, and making all they
> can, and the demand is still so high 2yo used are in the $13k-$14k range"
>
> I like the Xa, not quite as much room, but the same drivetrain and
> chassis, it weighs about 100 pounds less, costs less, gets better
> mileage, probably handles better, definitely looks better (so that's
> what the Xb looks like out of the box). I wish they offered all wheel
> drive...
> Of course the Echo had the same chassis first, weighed about 300 pounds
> less than the Xa, and dumpy looking as it was, got better mileage than
> either and was cheaper to boot. Not sure they're evolving in the right
> direction. A plus to me was that the Echo looked (IMHO) sort of like an
> early Rambler.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 6:36:59 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 48
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Cc: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx>
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I'm probably too old to accept that! Sounds almost as creepy as the E-stick!
I like to have some control over things!
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Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> "For yeasr now I've wanted to drive on of the new variable trans cars to
> see what it felt like! I wonder if it as unusual a feeling as the
> E-stick! Nissan uses one in it's high horsepower Maximas, should be a
> blast to test drive!"
>
> It takes getting used to, that's for sure. If you floor the throttle
> from a stop, the engine quickly runs up to just below red-line, and then
> stays there as the car goes faster. When you let off, it quickly drops
> off to a very low speed at a cruise.
>
> Keleigh
>
> amc-list-request@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 8:37:47 -0800
> > From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Another Re; E Stick, now Drivers
> > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: John Elle <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Message-ID: <24828622.1166719067177.JavaMail.root@web18>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Someone and I can't remember who, was it White?, made a vairable transmission back in the 1910's that was a large heavy flywheel mounted to an enegine and the way the car was driven was the engine speed was a constant and you moved a lever which moved the drive along the face of the flywheel. Starting close to center for low speed and torque moving out toward the edge as speed increased.
> > I remember reading the artice that stated the things had so much torque you could put a front tire against a tree and the car would climb it vertically!
> > What I can't remember is the specifics of how it was made and worked nor who made the thing! I know I remember it was never mass produced. I assume it was due to a lack of reliabilty.
> > I always thought the concept was so simple that it couldn't possibly work!
> > For yeasr now I've wanted to drive on of the new variable trans cars to see what it felt like! I wonder if it as unusual a feeling as the E-stick! Nissan uses one in it's high horsepower Maximas, should be a blast to test drive!
> > --
> > Mark Price
> > markprice242ATadelphia.net
> > Morgantown, WV
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 6:39:05 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Another Re; E Stick, now Drivers
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx>
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The DSG box sounds awesome! Can you sing by in a TT for a testdrive sometime?
:]
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> "Audi, Saturn and others in the last couple of years (now no longer
> offered)."
>
> I don't know about Saturn and the others (Nissan and Subaru among them),
> but Audi still offers the CVT. In fact, they continue to offer it on the
> larger, heavier new A6 with a 255 horsepower engine. Keep in mind, we
> replace a lot of the transmissions under warranty, before 50k. The techs
> joke that a 40k service on a FWD is replacing the plugs, filters, and
> transmission. Luckily, the Quattros don't get that trans (where I am now
> almost all the cars we sell are Quattros), and the TT and A3 have an
> entirely different transmission, the DSG (direct shift gearbox). The DSG
> is trick, a three shaft electronically controlled, hydraulically shifted
> mechanical box with two clutches and no fluid coupling. The gears
> alternate between two output shafts (both have a pinion gear engaged to
> the ring gear) and the TCU pre-shifts into the next gear, and then
> disengages one clutch and engages the other, almost simultaneously. It
> shifts so fast and smooth, only the best drivers could compare, and
> there's no hydraulic losses so the performance and efficiency are as
> good or better than a stick. Really impressive.
>
> "The Dutch Daf in the 60's"
>
> One step up from a go cart. It actually had a belt drive.
>
> Keleigh Hardie
>
> amc-list-request@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:49:07 -0700
> > From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] Another Re; E Stick, now Drivers
> > To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Message-ID: <000001c72517$903582d0$a4dc0d82@john1>
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> >
> > The Dodge fluid drive was as described, the Desoto version was a
> > semi-automatic. It seemed to be reliable as I remember just clunky. You
> > used a clutch to put it in gear from a stop OR it only had two forward
> > directions available on the column shift. Low which was the 2nd gear
> > position or second and high which was in the 3rd gear position and if
> > you needed to shift from low to high you had to use the clutch. But if
> > you drove it in high all of the time you just needed to clutch to put it
> > there. Once moving which was a simple as stepping on the gas to shift
> > from 2nd to 3rd you simply let up off the gas pedal and it would shift
> > automatically. It would also down shift using a passing gear type of set
> > up or automatically shift back to 2nd when you came to a stop. I really
> > had no problems with the transmission on the one I had nor do I remember
> > it being problematic. It was not a performance set up though.
> > Also as far as I can remember, most over drives were free wheeling above
> > a certain miles per hour, thus you could shift the manual transmission
> > by simply letting off the gas from 2nd to 3rd and back as the over
> > drives (I remember anyway) worked in 2nd and 3rd.
> > Another variation was the complete non-synchromesh or commonly known as
> > the Crash Box. To shift that set up on the move you had to become
> > proficient at a skillful 2 step dance of operating the clutch in double
> > clutch mode for down shifts and matching engine and road speed for up
> > shifts in order to shift anything at all to get it into gear with out
> > grinding or crashing the gears. Thus the knick name crash box. But once
> > mastered well you could shift with out the clutch at all once moving. I
> > drove one of those for many years.
> > As far as automatics go, there were a number of automatics and
> > semi-automatics from the late 30's on. Gm as mentioned with the
> > Hydramatic and Buick's Dynaflow were all late 30's I believe. Ford even
> > marketed one in 1940 or 41 but all sold cars were recalled and the 3
> > speed re-installed. Chrysler and other independents (Such as Hudson) did
> > the semi-automatic route and as mentioned over drives could be driven in
> > a semi automatic mode.
> > Not sure when the infamous B/W automatic was first seen, probably the
> > early 50's as used by a variety of people and a number of pre-selector
> > transmissions were around as a semi automatic dating from the early 30's
> > such as the one used by Cord and I am sure others.
> > John Mahoney's Packards from the so-called modern era is or was as I
> > understand it the only independent to develop there own fully automatic
> > transmission in the 50's and was used by Nash and Hudson on the Packard
> > derived V-8's I believe but it was a 2 speed automatic with a lock up
> > torque converter used as a 3 speed automatic and some what problematic
> > at best I believe.
> > All of these were efforts to eliminate shifting. An exercise relating to
> > be an uncouth chore (which lead to the first Corvette being a 2 speed
> > powerglide) which was also the reason why most if not all of the early 3
> > speed manuals had a non-synchromesh low. Who in their right mind would
> > want to shift to low on the fly? And it was also cheaper. Performance
> > oriented 4 speeds were really late in their introduction here in the
> > land of expressways and 5 and 6 speed manuals almost non-existent.
> > Now I see ads for 8 speed automatics! What a change and a far cry from
> > Buick 1 speed Dynaflow , the original and only slush-o-matic.
> > Now there is a big push to get the snowmobile variable speed automatics
> > out in the market. So far not overly successful. Audi, Saturn and others
> > in the last couple of years (now no longer offered). The Dutch Daf in
> > the 60's or so and one of the offerings in the Daimler Chrysler line up
> > in the last couple of years.
> > What next? A hole in the floor for a flintstone version of mystery
> > drive?
> > Have fun.
> > John
> > PS A number of those would be pure dangerous to place in the hands of
> > the un-initiated in a drive it your self format.
> >
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:08:38 +0000
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A T-4 would not have been available until after 1980. Its a T-18a 4-speed, which would be the wide-ratio model in a CJ, and should have a Dana 20 behind it. IMHO, its the best factory configuration you can start with if you want a CJ for a toy. If his 79 has the leftover-from-78 big discs and 11" drums, even better.
There is an unconfirmed belief that T-18's were not available from the factory behind 304's and were 6-cylinder transmissions only, but I have run into a few people that swear that they have owned their 304/T-18 CJ's ever since they rolled off the lot (but never provided me with the VIN). A T-150 to T-18 swap can be done with 100% factory parts, which would make the vehicle appear that it had always been that way from the factory. If he wants to know if it is the factory transmission, decoding the VIN will give him the answer.
Here's its page on the Novak Knowledge base site, which is a great reference tool for IDing transmissions.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/t18_t19.htm
Here's the main page for the Novak Transmission section:
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/transmission_gateway.htm
-Spro
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From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Anyone want to take a shot at this?
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> >From: "Colby McCollum"
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> >I am trying to find out what model transmission i have in my 79 cj7 it has
> >the 304AMC and the numbers on the top of the transmission
> >read13-01-097-007. I was told it was a T4 but from looking at your site
> >that doesnt appear to be the case. Could you tell me what this
> >transmission is.
> >Thanks
> >Colby
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:18:42 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Re; Ebay Gremlin Item number: 260066423467 - again
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To cut some slack, and maybe it needs to be, biggest problem I see with
that advertisement is the blatant miss-use of the word restored and an
even worse miss-use of the word Classic! All done by a group
representing themselves as experienced restorers.
It did tell me where those blue Concord front seats went to that I tore
out of my 74 Hornet Hatch back went to though and where not to look for
another representative sample of some form of amateur restored car. But
to each their own I guess. I've seen worse examples of well intentioned
botching. But then again yellow is not on my list of colors to paint a
car. I do believe though that lemons come that color ;-(
Merry Christmas
John.
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