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- From: Brian Berentis <brianberentis@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:50:02 -0700 (PDT)
I Am looking for A cross-ram for 2 4-barrel carbs for a 290 motor thanks
Brian 512-288-6348
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Today's Topics:
1. Car shows, Cruise Nights And Survivor Cars. (Mr. AMC)
2. A Productive Day Before The Rains Came Again Yesterday (Mr. AMC)
3. Doc's (Ripley's) Believe It Or Not (Mr. AMC)
4. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 (James Donold)
5. Mix and match Hornets (russ hathaway)
6. fan shrouds (russ hathaway)
7. Timing (EdForrest@xxxxxxx)
8. Wanted Magnum 500s (Gary L. Kirk)
9. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 (Brian Berentis)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:10:25 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Car shows, Cruise Nights And Survivor Cars.
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I agree with Frank about showing survivor cars. A member on Bart's
Gremlin group was hesitant on attending a local car show with his
survivor Gremlin and after us prodding him he went and had the only
Gremlin and AMC there. He said it was informal judging but his car drew
a lot of attention and in the end it won best Mopar. Needless to say he
was pleased as he had been driving and showing this original survivor
that I believe his mother bought new for 10 years now. I picked up a
trophy 2 1/2 years ago at the local AMC show with my orange Hornet when
I first bought it. It had dull paint, a cooked interior, sagging springs
and needed a heap of mechanical work. My other Hornet a long time work
in progress also took a trophy a few years ago at the local cruise
night. Like Frank said most ordinary Joe's appreciate an original
survivor or a work in progress. Usually I have the only AMC at the local
cruise nights. When I first bought the orange car I took it unwashed to
a cruise night that I went to with the yellow Hornet. The organizers saw
it coming without seeing who was driving it and later told me that when
they saw the car they new it was me. It was parked between a mint 69
Chevelle SS396 and a beautiful blown bb Chevy powered 39 Chevy coupe.
The owner of the Chevelle was annoyed that the Hornet got more attention
than his car. They haven't seen the car in over 2 years. Weather
permitting I may go monday. Wait till they see it now? If you got them
show them and let the Ford, Chevy and Mopar guys know AMC may be gone
but their cars are still popular with the dare to be different guys like
us.
The Orange car also won a trophy at the AMC show last sunday and those
people had not seen the car for 2 years. The promoter of the show was
the guy that helped me get this car and save it. If I didn't buy it some
local towing company owner was going to buy it and cut it up and make a
race car out of it and it probably would end up in the crusher as an
unfinished project.
"Doc"
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:33:33 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] A Productive Day Before The Rains Came Again
Yesterday
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
MacsOrphanCarGroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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The long time grill project is now finally done. It got 3 coats of
semi-gloss clear yesterday morning before the late day torrential rains
came. I never want to have to do somthing like this again. Time to move
onto easier projects. I just need to clean up and paint the grills
mounting hardware. I ordered my cooling fan, 2 quart larger tranny oil
pan, tranny oil cooler and billet over flow tank also yesterday. Knowing
how fast Jeggs ships I will have the parts by wednesday. Once the fan
and tranny cooler are in the now infamous grill can go back into the
car. Say AMEN to the completion of that project and on to the next ones
:-)
"Doc"
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:38:19 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Doc's (Ripley's) Believe It Or Not
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, amc_club_of_socal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
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Sorry but this is a bit off topic but not really for car people. Due to
the on going work on both my 74 Hornet's I have an old cheap book case
in my apartment that you buy and assemble. It has TSM's in it, old and
new bagged up and boxed parts and different cans of spray paint for
interior work, spray upholster glue and primer for body work and just
general automotive paint along with spray paint for my model building.
The wizard from the land of OZZ that I have been married to for 37 years
just accused me of saving "EMPTY" aerosol paint cans!!! Yes you read it
right!!!! I know I have AMC parts stuffed all over the house, in my 2
car garage and in my storage space 6 blocks away but this is on the
verge of insanity. I save good spray can nozzles in an old perscription
bottle in my desk should I need one. Has anyone ever heard somthing so
ridiculously from their spouse? And yes this is not PMS or the change,
that was over years ago. I am dumb founded!! A real good friend told me
years ago I should write a book "Living In The Land Of OZZ" AMC content
all the bracket's and screws for the grill are cleaned and ready for
paint tomorrow when the wife goes to church. My back is giving me a
major problem again. DAMN!!!!
"Doc"
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:10:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: James Donold
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22
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shut up fag.
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1. Re: Fwd: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion (Ross Guistino)
2. Re: super stock anm project (Jim Shadwick)
3. posting list (J. w.)
4. Skip Barber racing program for the 40+ crowd (Eddie Stakes)
5. B-cars (Mahoney, John)
6. SS AMX on ebay (Nick ALFANO)
7. VIN/Engine ID help (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
8. Re: Fwd: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion
(francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
9. Re: Water Temp Sender Location.
(francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 06:16:15 -0700
From: "Ross Guistino"
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fwd: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion
To:
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One question: Do the cars have to be beautiful? I have two Gremlins (as if
folks don't know by now!) and neither would be considered in beautiful
shape. One has a crappy old paint job with a bunch of dings, but she drives
well. And the other has a faded paint job but the interior is a mess.
Would one of these two orphans be accepted?
Ross Guistino
Rohnert Park, CA
The NorCal AMCs
'73 Gremlin 304 aka Vivo
'75 Gremlin X aka Greta
-----Original Message-----
Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion
Date: Wednesday 07 June 2006 19:22
From: chicago0516
To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If any of you are from Nevada, Arizona or California, I have exciting news
for you. You are invited to an all-AMC show on October 28-29,
2006 in Boulder City, NV. The show is being hosted and co-sponsored by the
Southern Nevada AMC Club. It will be held at the Hacienda Hotel and Casino
in Boulder City (25 minutes from Las Vegas and 4 miles from Hoover Dam).
The hotel is really nice and they are giving us a gret deal. Show
participants are getting 25% off room rates for any room but you have to
book no later than September 1st for the special rate. They're also letting
us use other faciliites for free.
We are hoping for a good turnout of beautiful AMC's. On Sunday, the 29th we
are taking a tour of a 150 car privately owned auto collection.
For complete details or to receive a registration form, please contact Mark
Ogulnick by posting a message here, by phone 702-293-2038 (home)
702-985-7647 (cell) or e-mail (chicago0516@xxxxxxxxx).
By the way, my first new car was a Fresh Plum '73 Gremlin X. I currently
own a '71 Hornet SST cloned into an SC 360.
Mark
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:46:02 -0600
From: Jim Shadwick
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] super stock anm project
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mark ....
Check this site out...........
http://www.ssamx.com/
Jim
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:23:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. w."
Subject: [AMC-List] posting list
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thanks for the help in parts i need to look for the
help on the vin. no i know what to look for i can
which motor i have. its sticks when you cant figure
out what you need to order parts.
jason
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:42:47 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes"
Subject: [AMC-List] Skip Barber racing program for the 40+ crowd
To: "AMC List" ,
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Non AMC related unless you are like me and over 40, someone shoot me if I ever put some of those items on my cars! I do like the blinking turn signal on for no reason however, rather common in Houston, even if driving next to wall or ditch. You will need a media player to view this, chancesa re most of you have that in computer already however.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*email is currently HEAVY
Call if important*
www.planethoustonamx.com
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This is a HOOT!!!!! It was sent to a co-worker by someone in the national Porsche club.
http://www.harrisonvideos.com/vids/banquets2006/rt40plus-4.wmv
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:33:30 -0400
From: "Mahoney, John"
Subject: [AMC-List] B-cars
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It's interesting that the modern media makes more out of a $4.1 million bid for a Brangelina baby photo than a $4.1 million bid for a Barracuda. Both are all about funny money, but then, if you read your motor magazines, you know all about $1 and $2 million muscle (and muscle-bound pony) car values. If you didn't read the Rand/Workman link posted, you don't know what you don't know about.
When the "popular" press knows all about where old-car prices are going,
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/automobiles/04MILLION.html
old and young old-car know-it-alls see flags flying: checkered and red.
Did old AMC make many "marginal" auto models?
Maybe that's what much of production AMC was.
Did AMC also make any "money-maker" machines?
Maybe that's what can "save" the rest of AMC.
http://tinyurl.com/pdpzd
Ten cents a dance or ten cents on a dollar?
AMC always moved to its own special rhythm.
AMC always liked one-in-a-hundred models.
Maybe that's what always made AMC, AMC.
"Different by Design" was Studebaker.
"Different by Choice" was all AMC.
That's the one-percent solution.
That's in your old-car garage.
http://corvettes-musclecars.com/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi
For $5,000,000 or $2,500,000 or $1,500,000?
For only for $150,000 an AMC can be yours.
If that's your old AMC car, that's great.
If not, $150 may buy you that Barracuda.
Newly-minted ragtop model of a B&W baby
http://www.franklinmint.com/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=669
will be added to the plum crazy garage.
And Franklin said, "Show me the money!"
Old Ben knew all about old cars and also knew all about AMC values:
"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor liberty to purchase power."
Drove the wheels off his Rambler American, then bought a 232 Spirit.
Roll on.
Shifting gears manually (like Franklin did before perfecting his 2-stage 8-speed ECVT...), did anyone notice that one little letter was added yesterday's posting? I put "year" where "era" belonged to see if anyone would read, think, and post a question. How could that Cyclone and Super Nova II have been designed the "same year" when they looked so very different? Did the silver paint [!] blind everyone?
They weren't. They were designed during the same -era-.
One was drawn in the summer of '58, the other circa '62.
If one digit makes a difference in car values, one letter does count.
GM re-bodied one car, twice. The other was re-bodied by AMC. Twice.
http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53217640_pr.jpg
If AMC people ever manage to build a new version of Kenosha Cadillac
http://www.car-nection.com/yann/Dbas_txt/Drm_cycl.htm
(by building their own comprehensive cooperative database), they'll know all about where their favorite million-dollar AMC car designs came from.
Until that happens, Franklin knew all about something else AMC needs:
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/images/bf0036s.jpg
"Silence is not always a sign of wisdom, but babbling is ever a folly."
Ben knows.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:27:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] SS AMX on ebay
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Has anyone confirmed if this car is a real SS AMX or
not #4647185932? Between myself and a friend of mine,
we have asked a few times for more pictures and the
VIN to check but the guy will not respond. Plus, all
the bidders ids are hidden so it makes me a bit
suspicious especially since it is up to $110,000
without any documentation along with very little
details and just a few not so detailed photos of the
car. There is one blurb about it having some sort of
racing history but again, no details.
Nick Alfano
Alfano Performance
Kenosha, WI. 53142
262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends
262-308-1302
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 04:15:58 -0000
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Subject: [AMC-List] VIN/Engine ID help
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Jason, go to AMC Engine Codes
and AMC Automobile Serial Numbers .
Those two files should provide all the info you need.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 04:07:46 -0000
From:
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fwd: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion
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"Date: Friday, June 9, 2006 08:16 AM
From: Ross & Terrie Guistino
Las Vegas AMC Reunion>
One question: Do the cars have to be beautiful? I have two Gremlins
(as if
folks don't know by now!) and neither would be considered in beautiful
shape. One has a crappy old paint job with a bunch of dings, but she
drives
well. And the other has a faded paint job but the interior is a mess.
Would one of these two orphans be accepted?"
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Ross, NEVER be afraid to show one of your "survivors" or "works in
progress", whichever they might be! Yes, some people, especially those
who have "check book" restorations, will turn their noses up, but the
rank-and-file enthusiasts will usually appreciate seeing such a car. I
know that those draw my attention as much as the near perfect restos. It
gives a chance to see what's being done, and insights on how, if it's a
work in progress, and a better idea of how things were if it's a
survivor. Someone (I hate it when I can't recall names, especially when
it's someone I know!!) brought a "survivor" 57 Rebel to one of the
Delaware Valley AMO meets early this year. I was more interested in it
than the restored SC/Rambler there. And I'd have rather had the Rebel,
but then I do tend to gravitate toward the unusual, that's part of why
I'm an AMC fan to begin with!
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 03:59:15 -0000
From:
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Water Temp Sender Location.
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"Date: Friday, June 9, 2006 05:48 AM
From: Mr. AMC
Frank I have the five bladed factory fan in the orange car with the
factory shroud. In the cooler running yellow car I have a 7 blade
Flexi-lite fan and no shroud. Same engines, carbs adjusted properly, and
timing set the same. Maybe you are right and the A/C condenser is
blocked with dirt and cutting down the amount of air flow. I will have
to blow it out. I should be easy as the grill is still not back in yet.
The car also has a new water pump, 180 degree thermostat, the cooling
system was chemically flushed after I got got the car and replaced the
bad heater core and installed a boiled out 78 Concord A/C radiator and a
coolant recovery tank. The previous owner had removed the thermostat as
he said it would run hot when the A/C was on. But he was a so called
mechanic and as I worked on the car I saw all the jury rigging he did.
What a butcher. I will see about adding a small auxiliary electrical fan
and an auxiliary tranny oil cooled by passing the one in the bottom of
the radiator and adding a 2 quart larger tranny oil pan to help cool
things off a little more."
Will the seven blade Flexi-Lite fan fit the factory shroud? That might
be your best bet for cooling. I'll bet the factory clutch is going bad
and that's causing the higher temps. It's common for those clutch fans
to start slipping with age, and you are talking about a 30+ year old
car. I'd bet it's been slipping for the last 10+ years. A new clutch
would do the trick if you want to keep it stock, but I'd go with the
Flexi-Lite plastic fan if it fits the factory shroud.
The auxiliary tranny cooler will help. I run a largish one alone (no
radiator tank cooler) with my AW-4 with no problems. Just remember that
they are sized to work with the in radiator cooler, they are usually
mounted in the return line after the radiator. If you're just using the
cooler get the next size up from the recommended size for your car. Or
just buy one for a V-8 truck w/tow package. The extra couple quarts will
help also, but I wouldn't go that far. The cooler will add about a quart
of fluid and should be plenty extra cooling capacity, especially if the
fan clutch is slipping as I suspect. That's if the car has a fan
clutch...
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway
Subject: [AMC-List] Mix and match Hornets
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Right now I have a 73 Sportabout sporting 72 bumpers,
85 Eagle sill trim, doors, tail lites and 79 interior,
all leather. Since 73 was the beginning of hanging
railroad ties on the car you have to contend with the
vinal valences and all the rivets, plus you will need
to drill and reinforce the bumper bolts/nuts.
Everything bolts up but some filling in of holes and
adding new ones are involved.
I will be picking up 77 Hornet AMX doors and B pillars
to add to the mix. Gonna add the targa band to see
what it looks like on a wagon.
Im sure the 72 front end will bolt onto the 73 and up.
I have a complete 72 Sportabout that will be junked if
no one calls for it......Russ
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:49:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway
Subject: [AMC-List] fan shrouds
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I have Eagle fan shrouds on all my rigs, from 196
Americans to 360 AMXs. Some bolt right up (73 Hornet
I6) and some require a little monkeying around (70 AMX
360/64 196 American). But nothing that a good drill
and sharp bit won't fix. My 65 440 is running an
original metal shroud though.....Russ
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:04:52 EDT
From: EdForrest@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Timing
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When we time this engine (4.0), the timing light says that we are at 60
degrees total advance. Pulling the timing back to 30 degrees total...and the
engine will not run.
We are starting at TDC on the compression stroke. We follow the
instructions that place the rotor button on number one terminal on the distributor cap.
The headers are glowing cherry red.
What are we doing wrong or can you please give me the correct sequence to
time this thing?
ed
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:13:04 -0400
From: "Gary L. Kirk"
Subject: [AMC-List] Wanted Magnum 500s
To:
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Looking for a set of 4 Magnum 500s. These will go on my 65 American with the original 6 banger, so they can be on the smaller side. (not even sure if more than one size was used.) I am not sure of any different backsets either? I will consider any usable set, altho a set painted up the proper way would be nice. I do not need the center caps but do need a set of the retainers. I can get the chrome rings anywhere. I can be reached anytime at 757 651 4513 glkirkbuilders@xxxxxxx Gary in Virginia 23322
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:47:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Berentis
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22
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yeah about a week or so ago somewon had a 68 AMX drag car for sale i was wondering if he still had it thanks Brian
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1. Re: Fwd: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion (Ross Guistino)
2. Re: super stock anm project (Jim Shadwick)
3. posting list (J. w.)
4. Skip Barber racing program for the 40+ crowd (Eddie Stakes)
5. B-cars (Mahoney, John)
6. SS AMX on ebay (Nick ALFANO)
7. VIN/Engine ID help (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
8. Re: Fwd: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion
(francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
9. Re: Water Temp Sender Location.
(francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 06:16:15 -0700
From: "Ross Guistino"
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fwd: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion
To:
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One question: Do the cars have to be beautiful? I have two Gremlins (as if
folks don't know by now!) and neither would be considered in beautiful
shape. One has a crappy old paint job with a bunch of dings, but she drives
well. And the other has a faded paint job but the interior is a mess.
Would one of these two orphans be accepted?
Ross Guistino
Rohnert Park, CA
The NorCal AMCs
'73 Gremlin 304 aka Vivo
'75 Gremlin X aka Greta
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Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion
Date: Wednesday 07 June 2006 19:22
From: chicago0516
To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If any of you are from Nevada, Arizona or California, I have exciting news
for you. You are invited to an all-AMC show on October 28-29,
2006 in Boulder City, NV. The show is being hosted and co-sponsored by the
Southern Nevada AMC Club. It will be held at the Hacienda Hotel and Casino
in Boulder City (25 minutes from Las Vegas and 4 miles from Hoover Dam).
The hotel is really nice and they are giving us a gret deal. Show
participants are getting 25% off room rates for any room but you have to
book no later than September 1st for the special rate. They're also letting
us use other faciliites for free.
We are hoping for a good turnout of beautiful AMC's. On Sunday, the 29th we
are taking a tour of a 150 car privately owned auto collection.
For complete details or to receive a registration form, please contact Mark
Ogulnick by posting a message here, by phone 702-293-2038 (home)
702-985-7647 (cell) or e-mail (chicago0516@xxxxxxxxx).
By the way, my first new car was a Fresh Plum '73 Gremlin X. I currently
own a '71 Hornet SST cloned into an SC 360.
Mark
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:46:02 -0600
From: Jim Shadwick
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] super stock anm project
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mark ....
Check this site out...........
http://www.ssamx.com/
Jim
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 10:23:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. w."
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thanks for the help in parts i need to look for the
help on the vin. no i know what to look for i can
which motor i have. its sticks when you cant figure
out what you need to order parts.
jason
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:42:47 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes"
Subject: [AMC-List] Skip Barber racing program for the 40+ crowd
To: "AMC List" ,
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Non AMC related unless you are like me and over 40, someone shoot me if I ever put some of those items on my cars! I do like the blinking turn signal on for no reason however, rather common in Houston, even if driving next to wall or ditch. You will need a media player to view this, chancesa re most of you have that in computer already however.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*email is currently HEAVY
Call if important*
www.planethoustonamx.com
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This is a HOOT!!!!! It was sent to a co-worker by someone in the national Porsche club.
http://www.harrisonvideos.com/vids/banquets2006/rt40plus-4.wmv
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 16:33:30 -0400
From: "Mahoney, John"
Subject: [AMC-List] B-cars
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It's interesting that the modern media makes more out of a $4.1 million bid for a Brangelina baby photo than a $4.1 million bid for a Barracuda. Both are all about funny money, but then, if you read your motor magazines, you know all about $1 and $2 million muscle (and muscle-bound pony) car values. If you didn't read the Rand/Workman link posted, you don't know what you don't know about.
When the "popular" press knows all about where old-car prices are going,
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/automobiles/04MILLION.html
old and young old-car know-it-alls see flags flying: checkered and red.
Did old AMC make many "marginal" auto models?
Maybe that's what much of production AMC was.
Did AMC also make any "money-maker" machines?
Maybe that's what can "save" the rest of AMC.
http://tinyurl.com/pdpzd
Ten cents a dance or ten cents on a dollar?
AMC always moved to its own special rhythm.
AMC always liked one-in-a-hundred models.
Maybe that's what always made AMC, AMC.
"Different by Design" was Studebaker.
"Different by Choice" was all AMC.
That's the one-percent solution.
That's in your old-car garage.
http://corvettes-musclecars.com/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi
For $5,000,000 or $2,500,000 or $1,500,000?
For only for $150,000 an AMC can be yours.
If that's your old AMC car, that's great.
If not, $150 may buy you that Barracuda.
Newly-minted ragtop model of a B&W baby
http://www.franklinmint.com/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=669
will be added to the plum crazy garage.
And Franklin said, "Show me the money!"
Old Ben knew all about old cars and also knew all about AMC values:
"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor liberty to purchase power."
Drove the wheels off his Rambler American, then bought a 232 Spirit.
Roll on.
Shifting gears manually (like Franklin did before perfecting his 2-stage 8-speed ECVT...), did anyone notice that one little letter was added yesterday's posting? I put "year" where "era" belonged to see if anyone would read, think, and post a question. How could that Cyclone and Super Nova II have been designed the "same year" when they looked so very different? Did the silver paint [!] blind everyone?
They weren't. They were designed during the same -era-.
One was drawn in the summer of '58, the other circa '62.
If one digit makes a difference in car values, one letter does count.
GM re-bodied one car, twice. The other was re-bodied by AMC. Twice.
http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53217640_pr.jpg
If AMC people ever manage to build a new version of Kenosha Cadillac
http://www.car-nection.com/yann/Dbas_txt/Drm_cycl.htm
(by building their own comprehensive cooperative database), they'll know all about where their favorite million-dollar AMC car designs came from.
Until that happens, Franklin knew all about something else AMC needs:
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/images/bf0036s.jpg
"Silence is not always a sign of wisdom, but babbling is ever a folly."
Ben knows.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:27:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nick ALFANO <71amx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] SS AMX on ebay
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Has anyone confirmed if this car is a real SS AMX or
not #4647185932? Between myself and a friend of mine,
we have asked a few times for more pictures and the
VIN to check but the guy will not respond. Plus, all
the bidders ids are hidden so it makes me a bit
suspicious especially since it is up to $110,000
without any documentation along with very little
details and just a few not so detailed photos of the
car. There is one blurb about it having some sort of
racing history but again, no details.
Nick Alfano
Alfano Performance
Kenosha, WI. 53142
262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends
262-308-1302
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 04:15:58 -0000
From:
Subject: [AMC-List] VIN/Engine ID help
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Jason, go to AMC Engine Codes
and AMC Automobile Serial Numbers .
Those two files should provide all the info you need.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 04:07:46 -0000
From:
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fwd: [BaadAssGremlins] Las Vegas AMC Reunion
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"Date: Friday, June 9, 2006 08:16 AM
From: Ross & Terrie Guistino
Las Vegas AMC Reunion>
One question: Do the cars have to be beautiful? I have two Gremlins
(as if
folks don't know by now!) and neither would be considered in beautiful
shape. One has a crappy old paint job with a bunch of dings, but she
drives
well. And the other has a faded paint job but the interior is a mess.
Would one of these two orphans be accepted?"
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Ross, NEVER be afraid to show one of your "survivors" or "works in
progress", whichever they might be! Yes, some people, especially those
who have "check book" restorations, will turn their noses up, but the
rank-and-file enthusiasts will usually appreciate seeing such a car. I
know that those draw my attention as much as the near perfect restos. It
gives a chance to see what's being done, and insights on how, if it's a
work in progress, and a better idea of how things were if it's a
survivor. Someone (I hate it when I can't recall names, especially when
it's someone I know!!) brought a "survivor" 57 Rebel to one of the
Delaware Valley AMO meets early this year. I was more interested in it
than the restored SC/Rambler there. And I'd have rather had the Rebel,
but then I do tend to gravitate toward the unusual, that's part of why
I'm an AMC fan to begin with!
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 03:59:15 -0000
From:
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Water Temp Sender Location.
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"Date: Friday, June 9, 2006 05:48 AM
From: Mr. AMC
Frank I have the five bladed factory fan in the orange car with the
factory shroud. In the cooler running yellow car I have a 7 blade
Flexi-lite fan and no shroud. Same engines, carbs adjusted properly, and
timing set the same. Maybe you are right and the A/C condenser is
blocked with dirt and cutting down the amount of air flow. I will have
to blow it out. I should be easy as the grill is still not back in yet.
The car also has a new water pump, 180 degree thermostat, the cooling
system was chemically flushed after I got got the car and replaced the
bad heater core and installed a boiled out 78 Concord A/C radiator and a
coolant recovery tank. The previous owner had removed the thermostat as
he said it would run hot when the A/C was on. But he was a so called
mechanic and as I worked on the car I saw all the jury rigging he did.
What a butcher. I will see about adding a small auxiliary electrical fan
and an auxiliary tranny oil cooled by passing the one in the bottom of
the radiator and adding a 2 quart larger tranny oil pan to help cool
things off a little more."
Will the seven blade Flexi-Lite fan fit the factory shroud? That might
be your best bet for cooling. I'll bet the factory clutch is going bad
and that's causing the higher temps. It's common for those clutch fans
to start slipping with age, and you are talking about a 30+ year old
car. I'd bet it's been slipping for the last 10+ years. A new clutch
would do the trick if you want to keep it stock, but I'd go with the
Flexi-Lite plastic fan if it fits the factory shroud.
The auxiliary tranny cooler will help. I run a largish one alone (no
radiator tank cooler) with my AW-4 with no problems. Just remember that
they are sized to work with the in radiator cooler, they are usually
mounted in the return line after the radiator. If you're just using the
cooler get the next size up from the recommended size for your car. Or
just buy one for a V-8 truck w/tow package. The extra couple quarts will
help also, but I wouldn't go that far. The cooler will add about a quart
of fluid and should be plenty extra cooling capacity, especially if the
fan clutch is slipping as I suspect. That's if the car has a fan
clutch...
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