--- MIKE DIAN HATHAWAY wrote: > All- I have been trying to buy a 4sp console for my > 73 Ranchero..... when I got outbid > with 20 seconds left. Both > times by a buck! So my big question is, does > anyone have advice on how to > get around this problem? Mike, if you're bidding on something rare and hard to find like that console...do you think anyone ELSE is going to just make a bid and walk away, hoping to win it 2 days, or hours, later? If you REALLY want it, you HAVE to be online and bidding, OR, get the Sniper software and snipe it, OR bid way higher than the last bid. Last, but not least, if it's typically selling for $300-400, but the price is only $135 now with a few hours left, and you're WILLING to spend the money, put that 300 or 400 bid in. You'll outbid the cheapsters who try to get it as cheap as possible ( like me ), by only bidding what it takes to get over the last bid. Or someone else will pay the bigger price if they want it badly enough. Bottom line is, if you really NEED it or WANT it, you must A) be online to duke it out ( smartly), or B) be willing to shell out whatever the highest going rate is, to try to beat the cheap. The other way, if you haven't tried it, is to open TWO Ebay windows, one with your final bid with seconds left ( I leave no more than 12 seconds, sometimes it won't work if you go less than that, depending on servers ), and the other with the auction up, and keep hitting refresh every 10 seconds on the non-bidding window. You only get one shot at this, so DON'T just bid a dollar more, for a $400 item, at least 5-10-20 more than the last bid. If someone on the "other side" is just creeping, you can win this way. If they've put in a higher bid, you may still lose, anyway, to snipers who are willing to pay more. But don't just bid the next increment higher, take it at least $5 more on items, and be realistic about the worth on items, if you really want it, don't waste time on just dollar increments if you see someone else bidding againest you. Sniping is the biggest hinderance to winning these days, but it means the person is willing to bid higher, not creep higher incrementally. So you MUST be willing to pay more, not just creep your bids up at the last second. If you continue to play stingy, you'll continue to get beaten on bids. THAT is the key to "winning" a bid, is know what it's worth, and be willing to pay it if necessary. You may WANT to get it cheap, but you may NOT, and it seems like your experience is that you seem to be doing incremental bids, rather than seriously wanting, and willing to pay more for, a desired item. So make up your mind BEFORE you begin bidding on an item, is it worth it to bid more, or is it a neat I Want It item, and then just incremental bid, if you don't get it, oh well. Once you're past that choice, you can win. But you won't if all you try is incremental bids. That is a sure way to lose to the other guy(s), and Sniping. Bid honest value, and you may win one yet. Just my honest opinion from someone who doesn't snipe, but has won his share of auction bids by NOT being too cheap, and knowing what you're willing to, and can, pay for an item. Jerry Casper __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list