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                                                          Update... I
                                                          ordered and
                                                          got 3 more
                                                          sets of
                                                          headers -
                                                          Hooker super
                                                          comp #7105,
                                                          Hedman #98316,
                                                          and a set of
                                                          the Edelbrock
                                                          shorties #
                                                          65813..... The
                                                          Hookers are
                                                          the same
                                                          HORRIBLE
                                                          quality that I
                                                          got last year
                                                          when I bought
                                                          a set.. I
                                                          would not put
                                                          them on
                                                          anything, they
                                                          are TOTAL
                                                          JUNK! The
                                                          Edelbrock
                                                          Shorties just
                                                          don't fit,
                                                          period... The
                                                          Hedmans are
                                                          fine but not
                                                          as good of
                                                          quality as I
                                                          would like...
                                                          So, it is
                                                          either the
                                                          Dougs or the
                                                          Hedmans,, but
                                                          the Dougs are
                                                          longer and run
                                                          along side the
                                                          transmission
                                                          (automatic)
                                                          too far in my
                                                          opinion, and
                                                          I'm concerned
                                                          about the heat
                                                          against the
                                                          tranny case..
                                                          The Hedmans do
                                                          have the ball
                                                          and socket set
                                                          up at the
                                                          collectors,,,
                                                          I do like
                                                          that... My
                                                          last thing
                                                          that I'm going
                                                          to try is
                                                          mounting the
                                                          Dougs, and try
                                                          bending them
                                                          outward/away
                                                          from the
                                                          tranny... If
                                                          that works,,
                                                          then I'm using
                                                          the Dougs,,,
                                                          if not,, I'm
                                                          using the
                                                          Hedmans...
                                                          Hope this
                                                          helps...
                                                          Bob in MN.
                                                          
                                                          --- In 
BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
                                                          "bob"
                                                          
<baddassgremlin@...>
                                                          wrote:
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                                                          > Ok Guys
                                                          and Gals,, I
                                                          installed the
                                                          set of "Dougs"
                                                          headers,
                                                          #D103, into
                                                          the Gremmy
                                                          tonight, (I
                                                          know I said I
                                                          was going to
                                                          do it this
                                                          past weekend,
                                                          but I forgot
                                                          it was Easter,
                                                          LOL ) WELL,,
                                                          although I was
                                                          very impressed
                                                          with the
                                                          quality of the
                                                          product, I was
                                                          not impressed
                                                          with the
                                                          Clearance
                                                          issues... Once
                                                          mounted,, they
                                                          are only about
                                                          a 1/4" away
                                                          from the
                                                          transmission
                                                          (TF 727) as
                                                          they run along
                                                          side the
                                                          tranny
                                                          case/pan
                                                          area,, and
                                                          only about an
                                                          inch away from
                                                          the back
                                                          up/reverse
                                                          switch... And
                                                          that is too
                                                          close for
                                                          comfort for
                                                          me... Keep in
                                                          mind that they
                                                          will work,,,
                                                          but I was not
                                                          very happy
                                                          with how close
                                                          they are to
                                                          the tranny on
                                                          both sides,
                                                          and there was
                                                          plenty of room
                                                          to design them
                                                          with more
                                                          clearance away
                                                          from the
                                                          tranny and the
                                                          reverse/backup
                                                          switch... As
                                                          far as
                                                          comments
                                                          recieved about
                                                          the Dougs
                                                          headers part #
                                                          D103 being for
                                                          a Javelin/AMX
                                                          application,,
                                                          and that they
                                                          will sit
                                                          closer to the
                                                          ground because
                                                          of different
                                                          height motor
                                                          mounts,, I did
                                                          not see any
                                                          issues with
                                                          that.. They
                                                          did tuck up
                                                          very nice..
                                                          Well anyway,,
                                                          I'm not happy
                                                          with the
                                                          clearance
                                                          issues by the
                                                          Tranny ,,, and
                                                          since I'm
                                                          already into
                                                          this
                                                          restoration
                                                          for over
                                                          $25,000 so
                                                          far,, I
                                                          figured I
                                                          better order
                                                          up some more
                                                          Headers...
                                                          So,,, I
                                                          ordered from
                                                          Summit,,
                                                          everything
                                                          that they
                                                          listed for a
                                                          Gremlin
                                                          (Hedman,
                                                          Edelbrock
                                                          shorty, and
                                                          Hooker Super
                                                          Comp), and
                                                          I'll see what
                                                          brand fits the
                                                          best, and let
                                                          everyone know
                                                          what I find
                                                          ... Side note:
                                                          Although I had
                                                          already
                                                          ordered and
                                                          got a set of
                                                          Hooker Super
                                                          Comp headers
                                                          last year(and
                                                          returned), ,,
                                                          I thought I
                                                          would try them
                                                          again to see
                                                          if maybe I
                                                          just got a bad
                                                          set last
                                                          year.... I'll
                                                          keep you all
                                                          posted with
                                                          what i
                                                          find...Thanks,
                                                          Bob in MN. 
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                                                          > --- In 
BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
                                                          "bob"
                                                          <baddassgremlin@>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          > >
                                                          > > I
                                                          ordered Hooker
                                                          Super Comp
                                                          headers
                                                          (ceramic
                                                          coated) for my
                                                          401 in the
                                                          grem and when
                                                          I got them, I
                                                          was so
                                                          disgusted with
                                                          the quality,
                                                          that I sent
                                                          them back.. I
                                                          ordered a set
                                                          of Dougs
                                                          Headers
                                                          (ceramic
                                                          coated #D103)
                                                          last sunday
                                                          night from
                                                          summit, got
                                                          them
                                                          yesterday,
                                                          Quality and
                                                          design looks
                                                          to be 100%
                                                          great. I will
                                                          be installing
                                                          them this
                                                          weekend, and
                                                          let ya know
                                                          how they fit.
                                                          Caution: Those
                                                          Headers on the
                                                          E Bay ad are
                                                          rectangle
                                                          port, even
                                                          though they
                                                          list them for
                                                          the 70's
                                                          gremlin that
                                                          should have
                                                          dog leg
                                                          ports.. Keep
                                                          that in mind
                                                          when you order
                                                          any brand
                                                          header, to
                                                          make sure they
                                                          are the port
                                                          shape that you
                                                          need. 
                                                          > > Bob
                                                          in MN.
                                                          > > 
                                                          > > ---
                                                          In 
BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
                                                          backThatThingUp
                                                          YoYoYo
                                                          <backthatthingupyoyoyo@>
                                                          wrote:
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                                                          Has anyone
                                                          used these
                                                          headers?
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                                                          I've heard
                                                          that DOUG'S
                                                          are the only
                                                          ones to use.
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