Re: [BaadAssGremlins] "For Sale"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well yes and no. Scammers would rather scam people's IDs, not phone number. Why scam someone's phone number when as you mention, someone could look it up? It's why you see a lot of scam auctions on ebay for instance with gmail and yahoo accounts, but never a actual phone number to call and verify.

One that did have a phone number was a 69 AMX scam auction with $4500 buy it now hidden in the subject of the auction text. And it had a phone number of a couple in NM. Before the auction got shut down 4 different AMCers had paypaled the scammer and the guy's whose phone number appeared I actually called and he told me 'he don't like AMC, enver did when new, and would not know difference between Gremlin or Javelin, but sure wished people stop calling him and wife about wanting to send transport to come pick up some car' he was rather mad until I told him where his phone number came from. So scammers made $18K for about hour work.

I may add also that fonefinder is not a cure all either......some of the scams I have seen where people email me off epage.com or even my own site like this one today:

" hello sales
i would like to order some product from your store to mine in australia.so let me know if can ship down to australia so that i can email you the product i am interested in.also payment will be done via credit card details if you do accept that let me know so that i can place my order and the Items will be picked Up by my shipping Company at you store , please Get back to me so that i can email you the items i am interested Collin."

but some of them even HAVE a phone number. And it is prepaid phone card or cricket cell so won't come up in any type of phone search, so covered tracks.

If you read the warning I put out a few months ago:

http://amccars.net/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1210178111

this guy is nice enough to call back before scamming! How thoughtful, he took one guy here for $600.

While it might be useful to potential buyers (and a courtesy) more and more people are not giving out that information. Yes, it might eliminate some potential buyers right off bat, but others who might be seriously interested will do the extra homework.

Eddie Stakes
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----- Original Message -----

From: Henry Hultquist

To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:31 PM

Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] "For Sale"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leaving out the location, but putting in a phone number, only helps the scam and ID theft problem if the ID thieves are too stupid to figure out how to use http://www.fonefinder.net/
If I can find out a location from a phone number, THEN SO CAN THE SCAMMERS.

I don't think it has anything to do with people not wanting to disclose their location. They just (like P Cook) don't take the time to realize that this would be useful information to potential buyers, and that they should put it in the ad. In other words, it is not a conscious choice so much as a simple oversight.

Onree (in Nebraska)

On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Eddie Stakes wrote:

Regarding cars for sale, many times a seller is limited to "X" amount of digits; that is, say 45 letters/numbers or combination there of. Some ads automatically put the seller's state in the ads, such as epage.com, but mostly it is the seller's responsibility as to what ad content is, and a whole lot of people don't want to put their information on the internet where it can easily ber hijacked. We see a lot of this with scam ebay auctions, where some scammer hijacks someones' user id and password then quickly puts up 68 AMX, 390, 4spd for sale, buy it now $5800 stuff. It is same with print ads, every now and then I get mailer deamon emails from Europe, as scammers selling Rolex, or porn hijacked my own email address, then use it to send out ilk. So there is a little bit of privacy issue I would guess with those who have items for sale not wanting to put in their city/state so someone can inteleius or switchboard.com or google them; instead waiting for real non Nigerians to contact them about the vehicle. Pros and cons. It is just the age we live in. Pro is you are more prone to get non tire kickers contact you with limited personal information in the ad. Con is you might eliminate a whole number of people who might be more interested if vehicle or whatever is in their region. There are obviously a lot more pro and con about this, however I leave it up to seller on my AMC CLASSIFIED figuring if someone serious or half ass serious they will contact seller even if in Arctic, then decide. Others see it as a courtesy, but again, with the sheer number of identity theft case in recent memory, which is a multi billion dollar problem in this country, more and more people limit the amount of information they put in ads, and ebay auctions or whatever.

Which brings me to this, on my AMCS FOR SALE (Shut Up & Drive Lists) I have a phone area code lookup. It is not www.switchboard.com which is useful sometimes, but this tells you quickly where the vehicle is by are code:

http://www.fonefinder.net/

Ya'll bookmark it and use it, comes in handy for those who make a choice to limit their information on stuff for sale in ads, no matter what it might be, AMC or not.

Eddie Stakes
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