Tim keep on doing what you do!! You are like alot of us older???.. guys on here! I grew up in the 60's/70's. To this day i still would rather work on/talk about/look at hotrods/restored older cars/trucks....NOT store bought FAST ricers. When i graduated in 1973...you could find about ANY used Mach1,Rebel Machine,Boss Mustang,AMX,Z28,Torino Cobra Jet....etc on used car lots. Heck the salesman would toss me keys and say.."drive it.....runs like he%%. I'll make a heck of a deal to move it off my lot"!! I bought my Machine in 1975...perfect shape for $850. The insurance companies and lack of good fuel killed the cars sales!! Hmmmm wish i had some of those cars i used to have...back now!! As long as a few fellows are like you, our hobby will survive! My son is 23. Likes my Gremlin and my wifes 74 AMX. But his car is a PINTO with a VERY built up 351 Windsor in it. Pi$$es off the 5.0 guys with high $$$$ cars,when he smokes them. Hell i went out to watch him race a BLOWN /stroked 347. Smoked it bad.Every nut/bolt on it he has done himself. Poor kid is soooo much like i was at that age!! Just my 2cents,Joe--- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tim Kottman" <timkott@...> wrote: > > Im a youngster compared to most. Got my gremlin about 2months after turning 16, now > im 19. Been a car nut since I was 12, wrenching on cars whenever someone needed > another hand. Most the work i've done was for free as it was a learning expierence for me > and there is no price for education. Kids my age dont know what it means to work for > what they have. Since i was 14 i've had a job and payed for all my goodies straight cash. > > I have been lucky enough to find a group of kids my age that have similar beliefs. We > hang out in an abandoned parking lot at night and talk cars. We dont argue over makes > we just sit and talk. Work on our cars, and just hang out. The bigger fight is when punk > kids cruize up in their ricers wanting to race. Im all for racing, but when its your daddies > car versus a car one of us had spent our life savings on it just takes the fun out of racing. > Its sad that the car guys are a dieing breed. Kids just dont know what it takes to have nice > things now days. They get it all for the rightful price of whining to their mommy or daddy. > > --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Tom H <bigrigbear@> wrote: > > > > This whole topic makes me wonder about the future of > > this hobby in general. If your 40/up you probably > > remember that Car Talk was standard social behavior > > for almost all men, even those who weren't shade tree > > mechanics. I was fortunate to grow up in the 60's and > > remember the whole muscle car / pony car experience. > > Regular guys would fix up their cars and some even > > drag race at a local track or cop-free street. You > > knew what makes and models were built by who and > > debated the virtues your chosen loyalty. > > Nowadays its not cool in most areas or just illegal > > and/or too technical for a budding motor head. The > > exception is the Japanese rice rockets popular here, > > but mostly its a matter of opening your wallet and > > having a shop do it for you. They have no clue as to > > auto history or significant cars. As to the iron > > still out there it seems most of the interest is > > coming from an investment mentality and everyone > > thinks they have gold if its old ( I overheard a "kid" > > talking how his Cutlass Ciera would be a classic and > > almost puked). Guess Im just a 49 y/o geezer who is > > stuck in my ways, but if there ain't grease under your > > nails you get no respect from me. > > > > Tom > > New owner of a 78 Gremlin > > Past owner of a "Whats an Edsel?" and numerous AMC's > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:BaadAssGremlins-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:BaadAssGremlins-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/