[BaadAssGremlins] Re: 77 amx rear axle questions/help

["amc74hornet" <AMC74HORNET@xxxxxxxxx>]

--- In 
BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups
.com, "Dan M." 
<vegadan@...> wrote:
>
> Anybody know where I can 
get the rear brake hose 
(with the block 
> that splits to each 
wheel) for a 73 hornet?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> --- In 
BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups
.com, "Dan M." <vegadan@> 
wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Doc, good 
idea.  Well, I picked up 
another rear axle today 
> > and am planning to 
install it over the 
weekend.  I noticed that 
> the 
> > drum diamater on my 
car is about 10", while 
the drums on the axle 
> > that I bought are only 
about 9".  Other than the 
obvious that 
> there 
> > will be reduced 
braking action from the 
smaller drums, will using 
> > these cause any 
problems with the braking 
system, such as some 
> type 
> > of imbalance?  Since I 
have never taken a rear 
axle apart, I'm a 
> > little nervous of 
switching the brakes, 
unless it will cause 
> serious 
> > problems.  Thanks for 
any input.
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > --- In 
BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups
.com, "amc74hornet" 
> > <AMC74HORNET@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In 
> > > 
BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups
> > > .com, Davis Martin 
<martin-
> > > davis@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A warrenty
> > > >    Seriously 
basically 
> > > the same stuff. make 
sure 
> > > the axels spin 
freely and 
> > > no noise. Also make 
sure 
> > > the brakes are good. 
> > > That's a sign of a 
good 
> > > possibility of a 
good rear.
> > > >    Davis 
> > > > 
> > > > "Dan M." 
<vegadan@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >           Thanks, 
Davis. 
> > > I got a line on 
another 
> > > complete rear end, 
so I 
> > > will 
> > > > probably go that 
route. 
> > > Any tips on what I 
should 
> > > be looking for to 
> > > > help determine if 
it is 
> > > any good?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dan
> > > > 
> > > > --- In 
> > > 
BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups
> > > .com, Davis Martin 
<martin-
> > > > davis@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan,
> > > > > I meant to say C 
> > > clips. they are on 
the end 
> > > of the axel in the 
> > > > pumpkin. A bad 
bearing 
> > > on an axel should be 
> > > evident when you 
jack 
> > > > up the rear of the 
car 
> > > so the wheels are 
off the 
> > > ground then try to 
> > > > wiggle the wheel. 
If you 
> > > feel any slop or 
play that 
> > > would be the 
> > > > bad side. Not 
havig done 
> > > this job I would 
refer to 
> > > the TSM and go 
> > > > from there.
> > > > > Davis 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Dan M." 
<vegadan@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Davis,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have a 1977 
TSC and 
> > > in reviewing the 
procedure 
> > > for servicing the 
> > > > > rear end, there 
is no 
> > > mention of these E 
clips 
> > > that you described. 
> > > > > Can you give a 
better 
> > > description of how 
these 
> > > fit and how they 
> > > > are 
> > > > > removed?
> > > > > 
> > > > > What kind of 
noise 
> > > does a bad wheel 
bearing 
> > > make? Right now, 
when 
> > > > I 
> > > > > drive the car, 
the 
> > > noise that I hear 
sounds 
> > > like a ball bearing 
> > > > > rolling around 
on a 
> > > metal table. It 
seems to 
> > > be pretty constant. 
> > > > > When we took the 
car 
> > > for a test drive, 
the 
> > > mechanic swerved the 
> > > > car 
> > > > > from side to 
side and 
> > > it didn't seem to 
change. 
> > > I'm not sure if 
> > > > > this means that 
it is 
> > > one of the other 
rear axle 
> > > bearing or what. 
> > > > > All I know is 
that if 
> > > the wheel bearings 
aren't 
> > > too hard to 
> > > > replace, 
> > > > > I may take a 
shot at 
> > > it and see what 
happens, 
> > > but if it is any of 
> > > > > the other 
bearings, I 
> > > won't chance it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Dan
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dan
> > > > > --- In 
> > > 
BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups
> > > .com, Davis Martin 
<martin-
> > > > > davis@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 68-70 AMX and 
> > > Javelin will bolt 
right in 
> > > as well as any other 
> > > > > small bodied AMC.
> > > (Rambler 
American,concord, 
> > > Eagle, Spirit etc)
> > > > > > Not sure about 
the 
> > > pacer though. Jeep I 
don't 
> > > think will work 
> > > > > either.
> > > > > > Davis 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Dan M." 
<vegadan@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks for all 
the 
> > > input. Davis, I 
would take 
> > > you up on 
> > > > > your offer, 
> > > > > > but I notice 
from 
> > > your bio that you 
are on 
> > > the east coast. The 
> > > > > > shipping to 
the 
> > > midwest is the 
killer. I'm 
> > > not too familiar 
with 
> > > > > > 
interchangeability 
> > > among the amc 
lineup. I 
> > > know that a Gremlin 
> > > > > > would be a 
direct 
> > > bolt in. How about a 
> > > Pacer? Javelin? 
Jeep? If 
> > > > a 
> > > > > > Jeep would 
work, I'm 
> > > sure I can find one 
close 
> > > by.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks Again,
> > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In 
> > > 
BaadAssGremlins@yahoogroups
> > > .com, Davis Martin 
<martin-
> > > > > > davis@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are 
also E 
> > > clips holding the 
axels in 
> > > place in the 
> > > > center 
> > > > > > section so you 
won't 
> > > be able to pull the 
axle 
> > > the way just 
> > > > > > described. 
> > > > > > > I have a 
good 
> > > model 15 rear here 
if 
> > > anyone needs it.
> > > > > > > Davis 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Dave Kaunist 
> > > <dave@> wrote:
> > > > > > > I haven't 
done 
> > > this on an AMC but 
did 
> > > this on a 
> > > > > > Mustang. If 
the AMC 
> > > is similar its not 
that 
> > > hard. Remove the 
> > > > rear 
> > > > > > drum, flip it 
around 
> > > and loosely attach 
it back 
> > > on the axle, 
> > > > then 
> > > > > > pull on the 
drum to 
> > > pull the axle out. 
On the 
> > > Mustang the 
> > > > bearings 
> > > > > > are pressed on 
so 
> > > you'll have to go to 
a 
> > > machine shop to get 
the 
> > > > > new 
> > > > > > ones pressed 
on but 
> > > I think the cost for 
the 
> > > bearings and 
> > > > pressing 
> > > > > > them on should 
be in 
> > > the range of $50-75. 
You 
> > > may want to 
> > > > replace 
> > > > > > the seals also 
but 
> > > that is also pretty 
easy. 
> > > Slide the axles 
> > > > back 
> > > > > > in. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This is 
working 
> > > from memory from 
about 6-7 
> > > years ago on a 
> > > > > > Mustang. You 
may 
> > > need to pull the 
backing 
> > > plate for the brakes 
> > > > off 
> > > > > > but even if 
you need 
> > > to do that I believe 
you 
> > > can leave the 
> > > > brake 
> > > > > > shoes, 
springs, etc 
> > > in place. However, 
if you 
> > > have it all apart 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > haven't 
serviced the 
> > > brakes for awhile it 
might 
> > > be a good time 
> > > > to 
> > > > > do 
> > > > > > that also. 
Good luck.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > 72 Gremlin X
> > > > > > > -----
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> > > Message-----
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> > > 
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> > > .com 
> > > > > > 
> > > 
[mailto:BaadAssGremlins@yah
> > > oogroups.com]On 
Behalf Of 
> > > Dan M.
> > > > > > > Sent: 
Friday, May 
> > > 11, 2007 7:38 PM
> > > > > > > To: 
> > > 
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> > > .com
> > > > > > > Subject: 
> > > [BaadAssGremlins] 77 
amx 
> > > rear axle 
questions/help
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have a 77 
hornet 
> > > amx with the 258/4 
speed. 
> > > I was told that 
> > > > > > the rear 
> > > > > > > axle 
bearings need 
> > > to be replaced. My 
> > > questions are: 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1. Is this 
> > > difficult, or can I 
do 
> > > this myself (I'm 
somewhat 
> > > of 
> > > > a 
> > > > > > > novice)? 
> > > > > > > 2. What 
other rear 
> > > axles (amc or 
otherwise) 
> > > will either 
> > > > directly 
> > > > > > bolt 
> > > > > > > in or will 
bolt in 
> > > with minimal 
modification? 
> > > > > > > 3. Does 
anybody 
> > > have 1 for sale 
around the 
> > > Chicago area? 
> > > > > > > 4. My 
mechanic 
> > > says it will be $850 
for 
> > > the parts/labor. 
I've 
> > > > > > never 
> > > > > > > had this 
done 
> > > before - is this a 
> > > reasonable price? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks, 
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > A word of serious 
advice 
> > > from personal 
experience 
> > > Dan. Don't throw the 
old 
> > > rear out. 
> > > "Doc"
> > >
> >
>
These are available at 
your local auto parts 
store. Your chain stores 
may not have it in their 
computer so you will have 
to find a place with books 
to find the part no#. I 
had mine the day after it 
was ordered but I don't 
use a chain store and this 
particular counter man has 
the knowledge to read a 
book and call the MFG if 
needed.You will not really 
notice the difference in 
the brakes with the 
smaller drums. I added a 
later rear to my yellow 
Hornet that had the 
larger ones and didn't 
notice an difference 
betweem them and the 
smaller ones.
"Doc"



 
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