Dolz4 is Gordy Chilson. And I want to comment on something here also. While I have never met Gordy personally, I do want to make a comparison that is on my website under "amc variations". that talks about this. AMC used a whole variety of suppliers for their stuff thru the years. You will find parts on your "original" AMC made in Japan, Mexico, Canada to name three major suppliers. Ever look at the stampings of many of your parts from behind whether NOS or used in your car, many say Canada. Pull out many of the radios, and the are Mitsubishi, RCA, Motorola to name a few suppliers. Gordy is a former longtime AMC dealer. While not endorsing or inditing placing something NOS like a bag behind a item, many people do it, inclduing myself. However I won't use the word NOS in the auction, unless it is a old NOS item, preferring to use the word new. If it is faithfully reproduced to exact specs, it is new. Sometimes NOS is used to make the molds, and could give you dozens of examples, at least from my end here! But you will find what I call "filler" that is "background" in all sorts of auctions on ebay, whether shoes, comics, antique furniture, coins, you name it, people will put 'filler' back ground behind it in a effort to sell it. Again however, you will find some of this on my site...put there in the early 90s from old mid 1980s file about Mint, Rare, NOS (have a whole file dedicated to that word) and other words you see people describe AMC shit on ebay....and in print ads like Hemmings, Cars & Parts, even national AMC rags like AMO, NAMDRA & AMCRC. So in a nutshell, your "new" exhaust manifold donuts were probably made in Pakistan or South Africa. They are new, not NOS, but NOs might have been used as mold or template to make them. It is same thing AMC did when the cars were new and why they ended up Heinz 57 cars with items on them from all over the world. And yes, you see a lot of misrepresenting items on ebay, the scuff plates and mirrors are my two personal banes. The scuff plates are a authentic Mopar licensed part, so new, but not NOS as they are not etched. But the mirrors, people commonly put 'AMX & Javelin' in the subject line knowing full well (or acting like they don't know better) that it is for Mat/Reb/Amb or Pac or Gre/Hor/Con Series. But they also know more people wills earch for 'AMX & Javelin' and the price will be a whole lot higher if it sells also. Want example: just searhc for 'amc mirror' on ebay. Here, try 170041325284 and look first at the subject, then look at the mirror. This is for only 67-69 Rebel/ambassador with the short cable, it will not work on a 68-69 AMX or Javelin, you will nOT be able to roll window up! You CAN make it fit however, by taping or wiring the cable inside door and making it a 'non remote'. This is Dolz4's auctions: http://stores.ebay.com/Baby-Boomer-Collectibles-Antiques I didn't know he had a store! Anyhows, really blurry line between NOS/new/repro especially on ebay. My advise is simple.....each auction has a "ask seller a question" button, use it frequently if you have any concerns. I know I do. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com Email is currently HEAVY 5-12 day reply times, call if important ----- Original Message ----- From: "jgray_55" <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx> To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:44 AM Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: ebay seller dolz4 anyone know him? >I HAVE bought from him before with no problems. just NOT liking the > implying of AMC NOS...when it is actually NEW foreign junk! joe--- > In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jgray_55" <jgray_55@...> wrote: >> >> Anyone know a ebay seller named dolz4? He sells alot of amc parts. > Just >> wondering because awhile back he had a pair of "nos" motor mounts >> listed on ebay. Pictured with a factory AMC parts wrapper behind > them. >> But when i asked if they were factory AMC or aftermarket...he >> replied...new aftermarket replacement parts NOT amc.Now i give him >> credit for being honest when asked directly.....but the photo was > very >> misleading. On purpose i'm sure. Recently i asked about a part he > had >> listed with a factory amc wrapper again..this time NO reply? I was > VERY >> interested in the part..but with NO reply?? I've learned the HARD > way >> to WATCH ebay very closely!!!! NOT calling the fellow a crook...but > WHY >> show a FACTORY AMC wrapper if it is infact a NEW aftermarket > piece??? >> Hell you can get INDIAN/CHINEESE mounts(junk) wayyyy cheaper at >> AutoZoneeee. Now this guy does not say factory AMC NOS in the add, >> just says NOS with a AMC wrapper in the photo? To me...this leads > you >> to think factory AMC part..or am i dense?. Guess i'm just not good > at >> merchandizing when i sell...huh? There IS however ALOT of TOTAL >> misrepresenting/lying about parts condition running rampant on ebay >> right now!!Joe >> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:BaadAssGremlins-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:BaadAssGremlins-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/