I just posted a couple of photographs you guys might find interesting. Photo 1 shows the floor of my 74 Gremlin, Molly. This car was sold new in Phoenix, Arizona, and well cared for and garaged for its entire 70,000 miles. It has never left the city of Phoenix (3-speed). The very definition of an Arizona car. Yet look at what I found when I pulled up the rubber floor mat. Photo 2 shows the floor of my 76 Gremlin, BZL. This car was delivered to Detroit, Michigan, where it was driven daily for 25 years, never garaged, then driven to Arizona five years ago. Two years ago the water pump failed and it was left in a farm field for TWO YEARS, where it was subjected three times a week to flood irrigation that rose as high as the bottoms of the seats. After ripping out the dirt clod called a carpet and clearing away at least half an inch of dried mud underneath, the floor is absolutely gorgeous. So what's the moral? Don't fall for the myth of the "Arizona Car". I could show you hundreds of examples like this. The automakers knew it was dry out here, and lots and lots of cars don't have undercoating. Molly has it about a half inch thick. There were several missing plastic plugs in the floors, but they had been covered with metal circles and a sealant glopped over them, then the floor was painted. These cars were cheap for a reason, and these guys knew where they could cut corners. bustin' the rustin' mike Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/