well I finally did it hit the 12's the new gears did it previous gears and times were 3.50 13.1 et 3.89 13.68 et 3.25 12.70 et not too bad for a 3400 lb car with AC, PS, PB and full interior 8.5 compression unported heads has a engle cam,torker intake and Holley carb I have now hit all my goals of +20 MPG was 20 with the 3.5 is now 23 with the 3.25 so set up the same way I got it all all on 85 oct gas and no power adders at 6700 ft air density Giz ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/YtqqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/