Not sure about Jersey titles, but here in Texas, they simply listed a AMX for instance: AMER JAVE AMC RAMB So I have 4 68-70 AMXs, but all labelled differently by the state in well, 1968 thru 1970. And all are simply '2dr'. Not sedan, coupe, hatchback, custom, anything. I believe after looking at my stack of titles here that the only two I see anything different on are the 69 SC/Rambler wagon listed as SW (same for 72 Ambassador SST wagon too) and the 68 Rebel convertible Machine listed as 'CV'. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com volume of email is currently moderate 5-12 day replies, call if important ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: Coupe or Sedan? > > > No arguing here...just curious if there was ever a 'firm' > criteria to make them, since the Feds and DMV often have > to mark their documentation with such specs. New Jersey > Uses the slightly-more-precise '2DR' and '4DR', bypassing > the whole issue by simply counting doors (which raises > other oddballs like hatchbacks that are sometimes referred > to as '3-doors', and those goofy Saturn 3-door 'coupes'... > or whatever!). > > <And now, a side trip...> > [Everyone recall the Pacer having a longer passenger side > door to make letting kids in and out on the CURB SIDE easier > and safer?? Now, recall the Saturn commercials introducing > the 3-door coupe a few years ago? They pushed the kiddie- > entry-and-exit convenience, too...but note that they showed > this happening always in a DRIVEWAY. Why? Cuz the idiots put > the extra door on the STREET-SIDE. Duh. Guess they assume we > all have a driveway and never park at the curb.] > > <...and back on track...> > My own tweak is using the rear-half's styling as a tie- > breaker of sorts. If the rear window to trunk/hatchlid > 'line' (viewed from the side) is indistinguishable (no > abrupt fold or crease between them, forming any variation > of a 'notch') *AND* it's got two side doors...it's a coupe. > If any form of notchback styling is evident, it's a sedan, > regardless of the number of doors. > > Using only AMCs for this example, this would then give us: > 68-74 Javelin and AMX: coupe. > Rogue: sedan > Rebel: sedan > 71-73 Matador 2 and 4 door: sedan > 74-78 4-door: sedan > 74-78 2-door: coupe > Hornet hatchback: coupe > Hornet 2 and 4 door notchback: sedan > Gremlin: coupe > Pacer hatchback: coupe > > These seem to me better applications of the terms. 'Coupe' > just suggests to me a more slippery/sporty shape, and fast- > backs suggest it best (to me). > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Regardless of whether it has a pillar or not, this is what they called > it, > so leave it be. > > Speaking of leaving it alone and finding something else to argue, > reinvent, > rename,... > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' http://us.click.yahoo.com/6iY7fA/5WnJAA/Y3ZIAA/YtqqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/