[BaadAssGremlins] Re: Barrett Jackson Auto Starts today!!!

[<eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ed, thanks for the link. Ya'll might enjoy, maybe not, this thread from 
the amcforum.net site about this car.
http://cgi.amcforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Auction;action=display;num=1094157364
And this was my reply today, it's long, and some may or may not agree with 
it:
I'm going to chime in here too. Hopefully Mark can correct me if I'm wrong. 
It's my understanding that this vehicle was sold to some folks who gave the 
Knapps a story about how they wanted it for their kids and to show on the 
circuit? Kids must have not wanted it.

Seems the circuit they might have been talking about was the auction 
circuit. It would be one thing for the sellers, Knapps who busted their 
butts restoring this car thru the years and actively showing it to sell it 
in a auction.

It is another thing altogether to lie to people (in this case the Knapps) by 
the 'buyers' who are nothing more than speculators. This car has had 150 
miles put on it since it was bought, and hauled quickly to the Barrett 
Jackson auction in a effort to bank.

I'm sure some of you will say, hey, they paid for it, they can do what they 
want with it. Correct, they can drive it off a dammed cliff for all I care, 
it is their property. However, to me at least, this does the hobby no favors 
simply because Mark got 'a good price' for it. I'm not blaming Mark either, 
as I would have taken the money and ran myself! :deal And yes, that is 
hypocritical on my part, however, in another ebay thread here, see a fellow 
with a 70 AMX note who he will, and won't sell his car to: (nice 
amx...but..thread)
http://cgi.amcforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Auction;action=display;num=1106063435


And a car that has been passed around more times, ok, about as much, as my 
ex wife  :puke in the past seven years, and none of the speculators, 
brokers, car lots all over this Great State of Texas  :deal can't SELL it. 
For $10K-$15K: (er, I don't think so thread)
http://cgi.amcforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Auction;action=display;num=1090244458

My point is this. Actually several of them if this bogus story the buyers 
gave the Knapps is true. How often does this go on? And why? While it is sad 
to see speculation in the AMC market by those who have obviously been priced 
out of their own market, I don't agree with it. I just don't like bounty 
hunters, and that is the sole reason many years ago I put up the Shut Up & 
Drive Lists on my website. No, I don't know how many bounty hunters and 
speculators and brokers and middlemen leeches might buy cars off it; nor do 
I care, it is there for all to see. And if they think they can make a buck, 
fine. I don't see anything wrong either with a car lot, or broker, selling a 
vehicle and making some spare change. I do however dislike seeing some 
idiots come into the hobby, just like the "PRICE SPIKE" in 1988-1991 and who 
could care less about the vehicles, only attempting to secure (insert your 
favorite marque here, from AMC, Ford, Mopar, Chevy, GM, ect) a vehicle, only 
to resell it at the next available outlet. That pizzes me off. How many of 
you were around or remember the Fortune Magazine issue telling readers to 
'buy, sell, hold' of different models? A AMX was pictured and it said "buy" 
as prices would go up 438% by the year 2000 12 years later. Didn't happen. A 
MG-TC was pictured, and Fortune warned "sell" and a Ferrari(?) was pictures 
and readers were told "hold". How many of them took that advice and lost 
their butts? Why does this 'musclecars are hot!' cycle repeat itself every 
10-15 years? You might still be able to buy that issue back order, it is 
Sept 26th, 1988. And yes, AMX prices went up considerably, then fell back to 
earth like everything else seemed to (even some muscle car magazines closed 
down) in 91-92.

For every car we think that sells 'at a good price' however, there are 20 
that don't. And if this story of the Knapps got hoodwinked by a sob story by 
speculators is true, then this falls into the same category as the 72 
Javelin AMX in BBG above being passed around for almost a decade now. And 
for baseball fans, it is the equilvalent of a * next to many records falling 
the past decade due to steroid use/abuse.

I hope I'm wrong about the sob story, may or may not be. Timing is 
everything. This thread was started September 2nd, 2004. It's 4 months later 
and I guess the 'new owners' have 'tired' of this wonderful car:
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/events/scottsdale/vehicles/cardetail_list.asp?id=179430

I personally would hate to see this car do nothing more than travel from 
auction to auction, being passed around like a high dollar version of my ex 
wife,  :-* or that 72 AMX in the thread above. If that is this car's fate, 
that would really suck, and (my opinion) does not help the hobby any. I'm 
sure there are many Camaros, GTOs and what not that this happens to. I can't 
think of very many AMCs this happens to. It just takes away from all the 
effort and hard work and shows and everything else the Knapps attempted to 
accomplish, and did accomplish, with this vehicle while in their possession. 
Yes, the awards, trophies, effort can't be taken away from the vehicle, or 
Knapps, but it sure tarnishes the car's image now. Chances are we might see 
this car in Auburn. Then Pomona. Then Pate. Then Scottsdale. Who knows.

As noted on my website, my biggest fear is that AMC will become a invisible 
marque like Studebaker. Yes, it could happen easily, regardless of the Car 
craft, Hemmings Muscle and other press the hobby gets, you only have X 
amount of cars out there, and you also have a fickle public that what is 
'in' one day, is 'out' the next. So the Knapp's car is press and of 
interest. But buying this car and driving it trailered from Kenosha straight 
down to Phoenix for a auction to me is not good press. Maybe I'm out of line 
and wrong here. But when a 71 Challenger Hemi w/sunroof sells for a reported 
$1.1 million dollars (someone correct me on this; will comment later) it 
would seem some are filtering into AMC ranks being priced out of their usual 
haunts. And so it goes....Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston aMX
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Veneck" <edveneck@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:04 AM
Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Barrett Jackson Auto Starts today!!!


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> FYI
> The Barrett Jackson Auto Starts today running through
> Sunday with live coverage on the speed channel.
> You need to check out the list of some of the rare
> Muscle Cars that will be auctioned off.  Only three
> AMC's however and none of them are Gremlins.
>
> http://www.barrett-jackson.com/
>
> Ed
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