Thanks Nda, Bart and others. I haven't bailed on any other groups...just adding this one to the pile...keeping tabs on the AMC folks wherever they may be. Bilwin clearly hasn't a clue, and I'd have ignored him if he was harmlessly blabbing at me privately. But because he was spouting off in a huge public forum, where less-knowledgeable hobbyists come for CORRECT info, his junkfood logic was poisoning the information flow. We don't need more yo-yos that think our motors were made by other companies or similar wrong info. John -----Original Message----- From: ndaracer1975 [mailto:ndaracer1975@xxxx] I would like to welcome John Rosa aboard and thank him for trying to educate that imbesile Bildo the Dildo.