Spy vs Spy, have not seen that for years! Yes, the possibilities are endless and no matter how hard one tries, as you mention, the possibilities are endless as to what people will come up with, and sell, to those who wish to have a 'edge' or 'advantage'. I am not familiar as to how these sniping services work, nor the fees. My guess is that it would 'read' bids and continue to bid a higher bid until time runs out. Remember last year when Hot Rod had online they wanted to build a engine? AMCers voted endlesslessly and were in the lead for a week or so. Then the Pontiac people got on there, and some of them had software as to where they could 'vote' hundreds of times, even though they were out dancing, eating, whatever, nowhere near computer, a few AMC people mentioned this software, and hwo it operates if I recall, quite facinating. This is probably a advantage for not only snipers, but also sellers who see the prices quickly go beyond what they were asking. Just my guess. Eddie Stakes www.planethoustonamx.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "lumina333" <lumina3@xxxx> To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: more Ebay & Sniping I can see the sniping software market expanding - it reminds me of MAD magazine's Spy vs. Spy comic strip - Snipe software for the buyer, Snipe block software for the Seller, Shiller's software, Anti- shiller software, Seller's snipe the sniper by sniping your own auction software, etc....the program possibilities are endless! Back to a question I posted previously: how does eSnipe software program work with multiple subscribers competing for the same auction item? Does eSnipe place one bid from the highest amount entered by a single buyer in the final seconds of the auction? That would seem to drive the item price up on the other bidders. Maybe this is a good aspect for the seller. Is there a way that a seller can set up eSnipe on his/her own auction? Or have others (shillers) set up eSnipe for them? This software seems flawed as it appears to have many work- arounds at this point. eSnipe also offers simultaneous bidding on multiple items that are the same, winning you one item at the price you want, then automatically cancelling your bids on the other items. You can set up auction groups to do this....seems fraudulent to me. Ahh, how nice to live in a free country to have such things to ponder. -Lu- --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxx> wrote: > <<<Original Post edited by me>>> > As for sniping, sniping is part of the auction experience, even at many, many of the 'live' auctions I have went to thru the years, from Autorama at the Astrodome, to Houston Livestock Rodeo, to police and storage auctions. You have someone that might sit there the whole auction and never make a peep until the last minute, or until they see a opportunity that bidding has stalled. Get used to it, some you will win, others might lose by 25 cents. > My observation with ebay is that people for some reason want to wait until the last day to bid. This is not new, it is something I too have done, to see if any bids and thinking I may fetch a bargain. Other times I slap my MAXIMUM BID on something early on, even it has 7 days left. Then sit and watch. Knowing what many things sell for helps me, but I am always surprised to see something blow past me like I was standing still. > As for those E-snipe services, I have never used them. If I win a item then it was menat to be, if not, then no big deal, will move on. Sometimes I see a bidders name as high bidder, and will back off or not bid, knowing they are a customer, friend, or probably really need that item. On the other hand however, if it is something I really need or want for one of my own vehicles or collection, then I'm like Donald Trump, and will step on toes with steel boots to get it. But a majority of the time, I simply back off the auction. > I personally would like to see eSnipe and other sniping software banned or blocked. But why would ebay kill another cash cow? Same with 'shill bidding' for instance. They indicate it is illegal on ebay, but it still goes on, some farmer joe lists his classic car, and gets on ATT's Friends & Family program and contacts relatives, buddies and so forth, and askes them to bid on it, which they do, and at a artifical inflated price. There is way more to ebay than what is covered above too, feel free to chime in, might help someone else later. > Eddie Stakes Yahoo! Groups Links