Doc, I'd like to see that, never heard of this method. Do you know that a majority of new cars sold today do not have a ashtray or lighter in them? If you want that 'package' it is commonly called a 'smokers option' and is extra. Funny, but my 74 Bricklin never had those either from factory, as it was a 'safety car' (SV1). Speaking of smoking, a number of the cars I have owned thru the years were non smoker cars. There is nothing like getting inside a AMC vehicle that has never been smoked in. The smell will overwhelm you and take you back to another distant time. You can smell the plastics made by AMC's division Wheelhorse Products. You can smell the vinyl, leather or couderoy. The carpet has a distince smell, especially cut pile. Every steering wheel will smell different due to the owner's glands thru the years in their hands touching the plastic/rubber/leather. Headliners are a unusual smell on a hot summer day. My 71 Matador 2door with 14K miles is one such car. Sitting inside it is a trip back in time due to the various original smells one would have been exposed to over 33 years ago. On the other hand however, you have vehicles that you don't want to smell or be near. I had a 68 Javelin with a 10 pound hornet's nest under the back seat, as the car had sat up for years. Big, black bumblebees, what a mess, that was vile. Or this Hornet AMX below, which one would not want to be near after I ate a one pound Taco Bell burrito: http://www.planethoustonamx.com/window%20stickers/refried_beans_seat.jpg No, this was a Chernobyl car. There was talk the other day here about 'alternative fuels' this would be one! Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX www.planethoustonamx.com home of the 3pound plate of terminator nachos ----- Original Message ----- From: "amc74hornet" <amc74hornet@xxxx> To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:05 AM Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Insanity's Running Rampant Here With Me > My latest dash resto. part is finish painted and bakeing in the dehydrator for a late afternoon assembly today. By now you all know I am a little nut's when it comes to detail. Well my latest part to be finished this afternoon is the ash tray. I removed the face plate which was held on with 2 rivets to the ash tray itself to strip it and paint it to match the dash. The ash tray itself is galvanized but the inside was rusted and pitted and covered with rust scale in the corners and edges. I had a friend sand blast it and I puttyed the pits, sanded it and primed it till it was smooth, painted it silver and put a cote of clear over the silver to make it look like it was galvanized. It now looks like new. No one will ever use it cause you can't smoke around me because of my emphazima or will probably ever see it, but I knew it was there and looked like crap and that would have bothered me. My friends say why do you detail the engines and chassis of the models you build so nice w! > hen they are in a case and no one can see it. I tell them it's because I know if I did it or not. When I finish all the parts I will take a pic of them for all of you to see. Later all. > "Doc" > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >